Comments on: Montreal’s bus death traps http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Arrêt demandé | journal http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-142226 Arrêt demandé | journal Sat, 01 May 2010 05:54:33 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-142226 [...] Ces autobus ont apparu en 1996, et malgré leur air révolutionnaire, ont eu beaucoup de problèmes… Fagstein en fait d’ailleurs un bon résumé sur son blogue. [...] [...] Ces autobus ont apparu en 1996, et malgré leur air révolutionnaire, ont eu beaucoup de problèmes… Fagstein en fait d’ailleurs un bon résumé sur son blogue. [...]

]]> By: Fagstein » The nitty-gritty of public consultations http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-30100 Fagstein » The nitty-gritty of public consultations Thu, 22 May 2008 03:35:13 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-30100 [...] LFS low-floor buses (16, 17 and 18 series buses from 1996-98 which are considered lemons if not death traps) will be phased out by 2010. It’s unclear whether their retirements will come before those of [...] [...] LFS low-floor buses (16, 17 and 18 series buses from 1996-98 which are considered lemons if not death traps) will be phased out by 2010. It’s unclear whether their retirements will come before those of [...]

]]> By: Bogus Bus http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-28760 Bogus Bus Thu, 08 May 2008 17:58:34 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-28760 The other issue with these buses is they hold about 25% fewer passengers than their predecessors and have awkwardly designed seating arrangements, narrower walkway, and steps at the back which divide the space even further. Get one wheelchair or a couple baby strollers in there and people have trouble getting on and off the bus, stops take longer, and people fall over each other more often. While accessibility is always the goal, these kind of compromises make it a negative gain. Particularly when the wheelchair lifts regularly fail. The only people who would buy this bus for a Montreal, urban setting are people who never take the bus. That is, STM administration. Incompetent design, bought by incompetent managers. The other issue with these buses is they hold about 25% fewer passengers than their predecessors and have awkwardly designed seating arrangements, narrower walkway, and steps at the back which divide the space even further. Get one wheelchair or a couple baby strollers in there and people have trouble getting on and off the bus, stops take longer, and people fall over each other more often.

While accessibility is always the goal, these kind of compromises make it a negative gain. Particularly when the wheelchair lifts regularly fail.

The only people who would buy this bus for a Montreal, urban setting are people who never take the bus. That is, STM administration. Incompetent design, bought by incompetent managers.

]]> By: Buses in flames « The Transitive: Montreal In Transit http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-24530 Buses in flames « The Transitive: Montreal In Transit Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:51:08 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-24530 [...] Faguy goes into some detail about some of the problems of the secondg-eneration low-floor buses the STM began using in 1996. He also talks about problems with safety, including their tendancies [...] [...] Faguy goes into some detail about some of the problems of the secondg-eneration low-floor buses the STM began using in 1996. He also talks about problems with safety, including their tendancies [...]

]]> By: Fagstein » Hybrid buses coming http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-1337 Fagstein » Hybrid buses coming Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:40:38 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-1337 [...] let us celebrate the awarding of a new contract to NovaBus, a company that loves to create lemons when experimenting with new designs for buses, confident that because they’re the only Quebec [...] [...] let us celebrate the awarding of a new contract to NovaBus, a company that loves to create lemons when experimenting with new designs for buses, confident that because they’re the only Quebec [...]

]]> By: Fagstein » Bus plans have good ideas and stupid gimmicks http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-1290 Fagstein » Bus plans have good ideas and stupid gimmicks Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:08:38 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/29/lfs-problems/#comment-1290 [...] from 1,600 to 2,100 buses (which means a lot of bus-buying if they’re going to replace the death traps currently on the [...] [...] from 1,600 to 2,100 buses (which means a lot of bus-buying if they’re going to replace the death traps currently on the [...]

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