Howard Galganov is still an idiot

Hey, remember Howard Galganov? He's that anglo-rights crusader who was popular back in the 90s, ran for office a bunch of times (and lost) and eventually gave up on our province and moved to Ontario.

Well, Howard doesn't let silly provincial boundaries stop him from opining, which he does now through his website. His latest diatribe talks about the declining anglophone population in Quebec, and he blames it on what's clearly the most logical source: the anglophone media. (Except The Suburban and CIQC.)

His diatribe is long and venom-filled with overuse of the words "sell-out", "racist" and other insults, so I'll boil down his arguments:

  1. They wanted to be nice. Their refusal to let slip the dogs of war and stab at government with their pens was surely a missed opportunity.
  2. They didn't support "anglo rights leaders". Translation: They didn't support me. As if the leaders deserve support regardless of whether their positions are sound.
  3. They're like Jews who supported the Nazis. Nothing quite like a Holocaust simile to get a point across when everything else fails.
  4. Some say we should celebrate Bill 101's anniversary. That's simplifying the issue a bit. The Gazette's opinion, for example, is that Bill 101 was a compromise that ensured linguistic peace. And even then, it also carried an opinion piece from Robert Libman saying it was devastating to the anglo community. CFCF's Barry Wilson certainly hasn't strayed from the anglo rights beat, and CBC doesn't really have an opinion section.
  5. They called me "Angryphone". That's because you're always angry.
  6. They equated me with francophone terrorists. Really? Has anyone called you a terrorist? You're a radical on one side, just like Impératif Français are radicals on the other side. You may disagree with where the middle is supposed to be, but that's something you have to live with.
  7. They didn't sponsor rallies to raise money for lawsuits against the government. Is that really the role of the media? They raise money for literacy, but they tend to take a back seat to, you know, actually trying to change the law.
  8. They never said ethnocentric nationalism is wrong. I don't see it that way. They routinely make the point of saying that the anglo and immigrant communities are important to Quebec. They were pretty united against the stupidity in Herouxville.

Galganov's solution to the problem is simple and stupid: Have all the anglos and immigrants leave, shut down tourism and watch as their economy self-destructs.

Howard doesn't seem to understand the problem. It's not that Quebec doesn't understand the value of its English-speaking citizens, though they do take us for granted. It's that many anglophones are leaving the province because they can't be bothered to learn some French.

In other words, the problem is people like Howard Galganov.

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  • rob brown says:

    MR. NAIMARD,

    In Quebec it is the government causing the "misery" (as you put it). The definition of communism is "state control". Too much state control has turn Quebec from a center of commerce with a thriving economy, into a have-not province.

  • Westerner says:

    "Western canada is an insignificant quantity best left ignored because it goes against the interest of what matters in Canada (Québec and Ontario)."

    Typical attitude of a Quebecois. bigot that he is.

    Why don't you come out here and talk your joual and see how far you get...Jean Namaird the pseudo frenchman at the Calgary stampede....About 2 minutes after which he would wear his teeth in his ass.

  • Westerner says:

    "We don’t have “communist tendencies”, but we are most definitely socialist."

    Get a copy of "illusion tranqille" to see how really dellusional you are.

    Of course, no one can challenge the "welfare state of Quebed" as this blog has proved with their one side censorship.

    Have you gone "sauvage" Fagstein?

  • Westerner says:

    "I am hoping that once the nutbar angryphones and their corollary the purs et durs die off we can all get together and have a celebration"

    Good luck with that.

  • Jean Naimard says:

     
     

    lol!!!!!!! Enfin quelque chose de drôle sur ce fil!

    Enfin quelqu’un qui a de l’allure sur ce fil!

    And as a anglo Québecois there is nothing that burns me up more than anglos outside Quebec slandering my province and misunderstanding the language laws. If you only read the National Post and the G&M you really don`t get an objective view of Quebec politics because the articles which present a more objective perspective are in the French Press.

    The english media are consistently tarring Québec as part of a general strategy aimed at having the immigrants vote liberal, because only the liberal party can prevent the nasty separatists from harming the poor immigrants by, say, forcing them to speak french, even though they are hundreds of miles away from Québec, like around Toronto.

    Actually, that`s not true – what burns me up more is idiots like Galganov who pretend to represent the anglo community when most of us think he is a douche bag. I am hoping that once the nutbar angryphones and their corollary the purs et durs die off we can all get together and have a celebration. They are two sides of the same narrow-minded coin

    As long as the english will be hard at work to eliminate the french, you can count on the “purs et durs” on doing their job of protecting the french.

    Anglophones are not discriminated against in Quebec. Do some francophones have a healthy disdain for English? – you bet. But it’s no different than the racist shit don Cherry spews about francophones and that doesn’t makes the rest of Canada racist either.

    Funny that no one goes up in arms about that. But let any french say anything bad about the english, and, oh! the humanity!!!!

    The objective of Bill 101 is to make sure that all Quebeckers communicate in a common language and that language is French. So as a result, immigrants must go to school in French so we can ensure that once they are on the job market they can actually work in French and be a productive part of society.

    The real “problem” about that is that french is perceived as an inferior language, because the french were kept in poverty for so long, and the english think that their language is superior for business; doing business in french = less money. This is not the case. It only seems so because the english are culturally incapable of understanding other cultures, and much less capable/willing (take your pick) from learning another language.

    As for the access to English schools, there is a similar system in Ontario for French Schools – if you parents were not educated in French then you cannot attend French schools outside Quebec.

    Interesting; I was not aware of that.

    And now, here is the whopper du jour:

    In Quebec it is the government causing the “misery” (as you put it). The definition of communism is “state control”. Too much state control has turn Quebec from a center of commerce with a thriving economy, into a have-not province.

    When it was a ”center of commerce with a thriving economy“, the money certainly did not go in our pockets, so we instituted those “state controls” so we could have our fair share of our ressources (oh and don’t bring that oxdung about the indians, because the english certainly do not give a shit about the indians).

  • rob brown says:

    I'LL TAKE THE WEST... Rodeos over sign-laws any day :-)

  • rob brown says:

    MR. NAIMARD,

    J'avous que c'est drole. Les Québecois sont comme tous le monde. On a seulement un "Q" :-)

  • t&t says:

    Sorry folks. Lived in Ontario, have a child and would have been able to register my child in a French school however, I chose a bilingual program. So you can send your child to a French school in Ontario. Just take a look on the net, very simple to do.
    People DO care about the Natives. It seems the separatists don't, Natives voted 96% in favour of remaining in Canada in the last referendum and have close ties with the Queen. Do seppies listen to them? Oh yea, they want to separate from Canada, I guess I answered my own question.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Westerner

    Please do not show your true ignorance to the world on this website by calling cuban female doctors protitutes because in my honest opinion they are allot better educated than you are.

    You are very insulting to such a great people and to the cuban people and may I sugest you take the time to visit this great country and learn something about Cuban history and stop being brain wash by democratic propaganda. Also open a book on Cuban history and take the time to learn something about this great nation.

    There is a slogan when you arrive at the Havana International Airport and is says the following:

    LA SOCIALISTA OR LA MORTE: be socialist or be dead in translations
    We in Canada we should say be bilingual or stay away from Canada, what do you thinK?.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Mr. Brown

    The reason I love the russian people and it's country is because of the great sacrifice they did 65 years ago and they lost over 30 million people to destroy nazi Germany and many other nations that fought agaisnt them and thanks to them my father faced allot less stronger resistance in Belgium, Holland and into Northern Germany and he has never forgotten the great sacrifice of the people of Russia and every time I see aussian I say than you and I learned to respect them.

    Also my personal life is not of your business I do not do that to you so stop it now!!!!!
    I live my life day to day and if you are offended so be it.

    When you walk into a clean store remember that someone like me cleaned it and never for get that because we did this while you were sleeping in you bed.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    To Mr, Naimard

    Get a life ,I like your cause but learn to speak proper french like english canadians should learn do the same.

  • Westerner says:

    "When it was a ”center of commerce with a thriving economy“, the money certainly did not go in our pockets, so we instituted those “state controls” so we could have our fair share of our ressources"

    And look what happened after that :)

    What was it for Quebec, the 55th worst GDP/capita in North America.

    Caisse depot down 40 B or 25% of the total as non recoverable. Bien fait.

    You need to get a copy of "Atlas Shrugged".

  • Westerner says:

    "The real “problem” about that is that french is perceived as an inferior language"

    It is certainly not inferior, it is just different. But, it is less precise than english. Look at the difference in vocabulary between french and english. English is up to a million words as of a few weeks ago as reported in the media.

  • Westerner says:

    "Please do not show your true ignorance to the world on this website by calling cuban female doctors protitutes because in my honest opinion they are allot better educated than you are"

    Look, I don't think you understand what I said. They are educated, some are doctors and work as prostitutes due to the social conditions in Cuba. Same goes for other professionals. In other words, they can't make a living in their profession so they turn to other avenues of employment that pays better. This is an unfortunate fact, Ron.

    "We in Canada we should say be bilingual or stay away from Canada, what do you thinK?."

    Canada is a bilingual country, NOT. Outside of your favorite province there is less than 2.0% francos who utilize french in the home as a first language. Roughly speaking 85% english and 15% french speaking in the whole country! Now tell me, is Canada bilingual? There are only 17% that claim to be bilingual and that is questionable.

    You should really get the facts before you engage your keyboard.

  • Westerner says:

    "Get a life ,I like your cause but learn to speak proper french like english canadians should learn do the same."

    You don't like joual, pour quoi pas, apres tout-- cette langue au Quebec.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Westerner

    Were did you get the idea that female doctors turn to prostitution?, for one thing you are dead wrong my father was in Cuba visiting a doctors training school he was told that all female doctors are sent to various countries around the world just like there male counterparts to help other countries who do not have enough doctors for there people and they are sent also when a country is in a crisis such as a natural disaster.

    My father was told there is some protitution but it is mostly in the poor neighbourhoods of Havana.

    For instance Mr. Castro offered many doctors to help the american people during the Louisiana disaster and Bush refuse them because he did not want Cuba's help that shows how dum this man really was.

    So please do not show your true ignorance ,in your sick mind maybe you imagine something like that but you are dead wrong and may I sugest you pick up a book and read on the Cuban educational system .

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Wester

    You keep beleiving what you want to beleive but I called the Cuban Embassy and they told me they have so many doctors that they send them to live and work in other countries and they offered Canada 250 doctors but your dum leader Harper refuse them because he did not want the help from a communist country . And we are crying for trained doctors and we have people on waiting lists for various surgeries and we have people who dot have a doctor and this leader refuse the help so that is why that many canadians fly to Cuba for medical attention because they cannot get it here in Canada a rich country wright!!!!.

  • Jean Naimard says:

    Why don’t you come out here and talk your joual and see how far you get…

    Oh, that’s allright, we know we won’t go very far indeed because you guys won’t understand a word of it…

    Get a copy of “illusion tranqille” to see how really dellusional you are.

    I never have been impressed by any right-wing propaganda…

    People DO care about the Natives. It seems the separatists don’t, Natives voted 96% in favour of remaining in Canada in the last referendum and have close ties with the Queen. Do seppies listen to them? Oh yea, they want to separate from Canada, I guess I answered my own question.

    Less than 10% of the natives vote. So, you can only say with certainty that 96% of 10% voted in favour of perpetuating the current system where a handful of people, practically hand-picked by Ottawa (because only 10% of the natives vote) run the whole tribe’s finances.
    You carefully avoid pointing out that when Québec deals with the natives, we deal nation-to-nation with them, and never in the paternalistic condescending manner of the federal government.
    And yes, people in Canada “care” enough about natives to give them third world-like sanitation facilities in the reserves, not educate them about their customs so only 20% of natives in Canada speak their own language (versus 80% in Québec) and not understand them so there are 80% of natives in jails outside Québec where the proportion is only 20%…
    Nice try, bub, but the native card doesn’t work here.
     

    Get a life ,I like your cause but learn to speak proper french like english canadians should learn do the same.

    Oh, don’t worry, I *DO* have a life.
     

    You need to get a copy of “Atlas Shrugged”.

    Bwahahahaha!!! To think I nearly missed the whopper du jour!!!
    Ayn Rand. What a poor excuse to explain your ignorance.
     

    It is certainly not inferior, it is just different. But, it is less precise than english. Look at the difference in vocabulary between french and english. English is up to a million words as of a few weeks ago as reported in the media.

    Wow! A second whopper du jour!!!
    Next time you look at your box of “lucky charms”, carefully count (oh, this is not as hard as you think) the words of both the french and the english versions of the language on the box. Now, compare which has the most words and you’ll see that “french is so wordy”…

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Mr. Naimard

    Most french canadians and english canadians do not kno how to speak there languages prpoperly I notice and see this everyday and I am dead sure you see this also and that is due to laziness and lack of proper attention to what is said on a daily basis.

    I listen to french and english radio host and even politicians and especially sport stars and they make stupid mistakes when they speak and they are very well paid but they seem not to care as long as there cheques does not bounce.

    french canadians use english words when they speak french and english people use the following words: you kno, guest what, f-word allot,and that makes me sick when english people swear allot that shows a lack of respect for themselve and the people around them

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    You believe what Cuba tells you. Then you are the one that is dumb. That would be the same as believing what Quebec tells us.

  • Westerner says:

    "Oh, that’s allright, we know we won’t go very far indeed because you guys won’t understand a word of it…"

    Similar to the people of France who don't seem to understand you either, as many have commented :)

    "I never have been impressed by any right-wing propaganda…"

    Obviously not by facts and/or realities either! :)

    "Canada speak their own language (versus 80% in Québec)...."

    Really, I don't hear too much native Mohawk on the south end of the Mercier Bridge. Mostly english!

    "What a poor excuse to explain your ignorance"

    People in glass houses!!!

    "Next time you look at your box of “lucky charms”, carefully count ..."

    Why don't you bring to the table some meaningful research rather than your usual rants. For instance, an "intelligent person" would research the issue to compare the differences, such as the number of words in the vocabulary. An example:

    " A little home-team vanity. Rich? France has maybe 100,000 non-technical words. English has well over 600,000. Precise? One of French's distinctive merits is rather its allusiveness: think romance, wine, politics, philosophy. Notes Francophile-but-iconoclastic historian Bill Bryson: "The French cannot distinguish between house and home, between mind and brain, between man and gentleman.""

    For the full Article:

    http://www2.canada.com/ottawacitizen/columnists/story.html?id=788b08a9-d885-473c-aa48-1b30bffb1f62

    Voila.

    If you actually want some "whoppers" and a side of "freedom Fries" I suggest you try Burger King. You can even get a "pepsi".

  • Westerner says:

    He Ron,

    You mean like "poulet fucke", in past comments by another poster (hint...JN)

    The word fuck is interesting, definatly english in origina. Actuall means.

    Fornication Under Consent of the King. Check it out!!

    Lots of f**ke used by the Quebecois. Even on this blog by some.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Brown

    Type Cuba and you could learn allot about this country, Cuba is not perfect and kno country is but canadians flock there and so does europeans because not to long ago the gov. as allowed tourist to talk and to go anywere in Havana except for military bases. Cuba does have human rights problemes but so does the United States, Canada, Great Britain etc.... so take the time and visit Cuba there are many quebecquers that goes there for medical operations and to enjoy this fantastic country and the many great things it as to offer.

  • Westerner says:

    Just downed on me for whatever reason.

    FUCKE is that franglish for "fornication under the kings consent, enjoy.:):)

    Fraglais. ou frenglais.. intersting.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    You are idealistic in your perceptions. Cuba is a communist country with no democracy. Its human rights problems are massive.

    I am starting to understand that people with communist leanings are responsible for a lot of the problems we have in Canada today. The idea that the government can oppress the people is where these problems start. Which we see a lot in Quebec.

  • Jean Naimard says:

     

    I am starting to understand that people with communist leanings are responsible for a lot of the problems we have in Canada today. The idea that the government can oppress the people is where these problems start. Which we see a lot in Quebec.

    How long that thread has been going on? Several months at least. And I have yet to see any concrete example and proof of people being “oppressed by the guvmint” in Québec.

  • rob brown says:

    MR. NAIMARD,

    You say there are no examples of oppression by the government of Quebec. You yourself have stated that bill 101 was a deliberate policy to get rid of 600,000 English speaking people from Quebec.

    It worked by harassing people until they got fed up and left. Business people were harassed with sign-laws and language police. Other people were harassed by government agencies, bylaw officers, etc.

  • rob brown says:

    MR. NAIMARD,

    A bit more. Anybody who resisted the Francophone takeover of Quebec, was harassed, oppressed, and generally made to feel "unwelcome".

    Does that pretty well sum it up?

  • Thomas Kirke says:

    May 30 Naimardism: When we arrived here, we shared the land with the natives..."

    Response: M. Naimard's assertion that the French "shared the land with the nativess [sic] " is "faux comme les diamants du Canada" ("As false as Canadian diamonds."). A brief look at the French colonial experience beginning with Jacques Cartier and Samuel de Champlain indicates that the French were interested in acquisition by force.

    When Jacques Cartier arrived in the New World in 1534, he planted a 10 metre cross with the words "Long Live the King of France" and claimed the land for France. Cartier kidnapped the two sons of Chief Donnacona and took them back to France.

    On his second voyage Cartier invited Chief Donnacona and 34 other Iroquois to a feast. Instead of "sharing" a hearty dinner, the Iroquois were forced onto a boat which took them to France, where they all died of diseases.

    Cartier returned in 1641 and founded a settlement at Charlesbourg-Royal with approximately 400 settlers, including many convicts. The colonists collected what they believed to be gold and diamonds, but upon closer inspection in France, they were revealed as Quartz crystals and Iron Pyrite. From this arose the expression "faux comme les diamants du Canada" ("As false as Canadian diamonds.")

    When pressed regarding the whereabouts of Chief Donnacona et. al. Cartier said they were happy in France and did not wish to return. Cartier was not too persuasive, and his colonists were driven out by hostile Iroquois. It is evident that the First Nations were not interested in "sharing" their land with the French.

    Samuel de Champlain founded Quebec Habitation in 1608, and shortly thereafter "shared" a blast of his arquebus with two Iroquois chiefs. This began a century of wars over control of the Beaver trade between the French and their Huron allies against the Iroquois.

    There was a brief lull in the hostilities thanks to those glorious Kirke Brothers, who captured Quebec in 1629 and held it for England. These privateers lived in splendour in their new possession until 1632, when Charles I of England returned the territory to France in return for a dowry payment. David Kirke was made governor of Newfoundland and the Kirke Coat of Arms can be seen in that province's coat of arms today. If the Kirkes had been allowed to keep Quebec we would have been living in an entirely different country today. Who knew?

    Samuel de Champlain returned to Quebec and resumed his interrupted governorship. The enmity between the Iroquois and France continued as well. Adam Dollard des Ormeaux and a small group of soldiers were surrounded and killed by a group of 700 Iroquois warriors during the Battle of Long Sault. A young Madeleine de Verchères led a brave resistance against an Iroquois attack in 1691.

    France made an alliance with the Huron, and sent the Jesuits to convert their new allies to Catholicism. The Black Robes brought European illnesses such as the measles and smallpox. Lacking immunity to these diseases, the Hurons died by the thousands and were nearly wiped out by the Iroquois.

    Thus, while M. Naimard indicates that the French "shared" the land with the First Nations, a quick glance at the historical record indicates the fallacy of his claim. France shared disease, warfare, and destruction with the First Nations. Not surprisingly, the First Nations were not interested in sharing their land with the French.

    Regards,

    Thomas Kirke,
    Canadian.

  • Thomas Kirke says:

    May 30 Naimardism: We are natives, too. Our blood is mixed with the natives’.

    Response: Quebecers are Natives? What the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks! (Pardon my language Mr. Moderator.)

    So much for Pure Laine!

    Are you trying to double-dip, M. Naimard?

  • Thomas Kirke says:

    rob brown says:
    June 5, 2009 at 2:56 am

    MR. KIRKE,
    Your recent statement on Quebec is much too kind. The Quebec government is a fascist government...

    Response:

    Sir, I thank you for your civil tone, and commend you for your late-night contributions. Your comment piqued my memory regarding some interesting historical research exploring support for fascism in Quebec and its influence in the soveriegntist movement.

    Quebec author and historian Esther Delisle wrote about the history of anti-Semitism and support of fascism among Quebec nationalists of the 1930s in her Phd thesis at Université Laval.

    Her thesis was strongly critical of the Quebec Nationalist historian Abbé Lionel Groulx, who presented a view of Quebec History that celebrated heroic myths. Dr. Deslisle's depiction of a Quebec icon was not favourably received in Nationalist circles.

    Also, she had the temerity to suggest that traces of racism and xenophobia might exist in the contemporary soveriegntist movement. Naturally the Quebec media choked over their collective poutines and rushed to savage her findings. She was called a Traitor and worse.

    Mordechai Richler praised her work while researching his book Oh Canada, Oh Quebec, in which he presented a blistering attack on Quebec nationalism. Dr. Deslisle made an oblique reference to Mr. Richler in the title of her 1993 book The Traitor and the Jew . I found this book to be a very interesing and informative read, and highly recommend it to Mr. Brown and anyone else interested in the support for Fascist regimes in Quebec and other parts of Canada.

    Dr. Deslise published a book in 1998 called Myths, Memories and Lies, in which she detailed support for Fascism among Quebec notables during the 1930's and during World War Two. Montreal Mayor Camillien Houde supported Fascist leaders such as Benito Mussolini of Italy during the 1930's.

    Henri Bourassa, the founder and editor of the influential newspaper Le Devoir, praised European fascist governments until 1943. Dr. Deslisle convincingly documented strong Quebec support for the Vichy government even after it was clear that Marshall Petain was collaborating with the Nazis.

    Dr. Deslisle's findings were seen as an attack on Quebecers by one of their own. The airing of the family laundry was embarassing. The Quebec magazine L'actualité featured her findings in a cover story called "The Myth of a Fascist Quebec."

    Are the findings indicated above isolated incidents from the Quebec's past, or do they resonate in the present? I watched Jacques Parizeau's concession speech after narrow 50.58% - 49.2% defeat of the 1995 Quebec referendum speech on sovereignty in which he made his infamous remark on "money and the ethnic vote."

    At the time I felt like I was watching a political show from a Banana Republic. The "Money and the Ethnic Vote" remark coming from a Provincial Premier shows the deep and pervasive the divide between Quebecers and those who they perceive as les autres.

    Guy Charron provided a balanced analysis of the so-called Michaud Affair of 2000, in which a prominent PQ supporter made some inflammatory remarks on a radio station and before a public hearing on Quebec's language laws. (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/queb-d29.shtml) Mr. Michaud quoted Abbé Lionel Groulx and made some provocative comments regarding immigrants in Quebec. He even made a reference to Howard Galganov! See the website for the full article and analysis.

    Quebec's recent hearings on Reasonable Accommodation were interesting because they revealed the vast polarization in the province. The small Quebec town of Hérouxville passed a resolution in Jan. 2007 giving "guidelines" for potential immigrants to the predominantly francophone, white, and Catholic Town.

    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

    Yours,

    Thomas Kirke,
    Canadian.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    To all of you Why don't you go on Google and type Canada and they will tell you the Canada I understand is billingual and not english or french but BILLINGUAL so please all of you know it all's read that topic that gives a history of this country.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    Canada is not a bilingual country. This is just a political lie started by the fascist Trudeau in order to discriminate against unilingual Canadians.

    The reality is that Quebec is mostly French, and the rest of Canada is mostly English.

    This is what the federal government and the Quebec government have created. It is time to accept this reality.

  • Westerner says:

    @ Ron,

    Where have you been Ron during the last few months. Do you actually read the posts on this thread. I am wondering??

    Canada is not a bilingual country now, nor in the past and not likely in the future. . The bilingual concept is a lie and gross misrepresentation to the people of the world started by politicians from Quebec. Quebec is french (or a form of it) and the ROC is english (or a form of it). That is the reality of the situation and no amount of Red Faced politicians or beurocratic mumbo jumbo will change this fact. It is what it is.

    Outside of Quebec and NB(bilingual province) there is less than 1% french routinely spoken in the home. The number of people with french mother tongues in english Canada is less than 4% of which very few continue to speak french. Use of French has declined a full 25% in the last five years according to Stats Canada. The language is dying outside of Quebec and NB.

    If you look at all of Canada including Quebec..there is 70% english spoken in the home, 20% french, and about 10% other languages.

    Is this your definition of a bilingual country. Without Quebec, Canada is overwhelmingly anglo speaking with french being less than 3%.

    And this is the problem. What the f''k do we need bilingual programs across Canada where there is absolutely no need. A waste of TAX dollars you so often reference as being so high and unfair. How about this waste of your money.

  • Jean Naimard says:

     

    Quebec author and historian Esther Delisle wrote about the history of anti-Semitism and support of fascism among Quebec nationalists of the 1930s in her Phd thesis at Université Laval.
    Her thesis was strongly critical of the Quebec Nationalist historian Abbé Lionel Groulx, who presented a view of Quebec History that celebrated heroic myths. Dr. Deslisle’s depiction of a Quebec icon was not favourably received in Nationalist circles.

    So what? As I pointed out earlier (which you carefully refrain from mentionning), everyone was antisemite back then, most especially the WASP establishment (Mc-Gill had jewish quotas — I’ll gladly introduce you to jews who had to change their names so they could attend Mc-Gill back then). When it comes to antisemitism, the french were much less guilty than the english.

    Also, she had the temerity to suggest that traces of racism and xenophobia might exist in the contemporary soveriegntist movement.

    The keyword here is “traces” — trace - a just detectable amount; "he speaks French with a trace of an accent"
    The racism and xenophobia has long been gone, and is perfectly understandable in the context where the immigrants are being assimilated into the english and used to minorize us. However, thanks to law 101, where immigrants are no longer assimilated into the english, the old racism and xenophobia of yesterday has vanished to the point that there are barely traces of it left nowadays.
    It is not easy to undo in 30 years the damages done during more than two centuries.

    Mordechai Richler praised her work while researching his book Oh Canada, Oh Quebec, in which he presented a blistering attack on Quebec nationalism. Dr. Deslisle made an oblique reference to Mr. Richler in the title of her 1993 book The Traitor and the Jew . I found this book to be a very interesing and informative read, and highly recommend it to Mr. Brown and anyone else interested in the support for Fascist regimes in Quebec and other parts of Canada.

    Richler is an überputz. He goes about loudly complaining about the purported racism of the french while adamantly refusing to learn french himself, and complaining that goys should not be trusted in picking up a smoked-meat order at Schwartz’s.

    Dr. Deslise published a book in 1998 called Myths, Memories and Lies, in which she detailed support for Fascism among Quebec notables during the 1930’s and during World War Two. Montreal Mayor Camillien Houde supported Fascist leaders such as Benito Mussolini of Italy during the 1930’s.

    Prout. Nice try.
    This was more than **TWO** generations ago. Back then, Hitler had quite a large following in the US and even up to Windsor Palace (do you really think that Edward VIII was really ousted because he wanted to marry that american woman???) and it wasn’t clear to many people that the nazis would be crushed.

    Henri Bourassa, the founder and editor of the influential newspaper Le Devoir, praised European fascist governments until 1943. Dr. Deslisle convincingly documented strong Quebec support for the Vichy government even after it was clear that Marshall Petain was collaborating with the Nazis.

    Well, yes. Back then, during the grande noirceur, the scatholic clergy of notre très sainte merde l’église controlled everything, and they weren’t about to let us back a bunch of godless communists who took religion out of France!
    And as soon as we got rid of the grande noirceur and kicked the church out of our life, we collectively espoused quite left-wing values.

    Dr. Deslisle’s findings were seen as an attack on Quebecers by one of their own. The airing of the family laundry was embarassing. The Quebec magazine L’actualité featured her findings in a cover story called “The Myth of a Fascist Quebec.”

    You are grasping at straws. Esther Delisle might have got her doctorate, but that does not mean that you can interpret her findings out of context, and the context is TWO GENERATIONS LATER, which in Québec, could very well be a thousand years later, given that we went from the middle-ages to a post-industrial society in 30 years.

    Are the findings indicated above isolated incidents from the Quebec’s past, or do they resonate in the present? I watched Jacques Parizeau’s concession speech after narrow 50.58% – 49.2% defeat of the 1995 Quebec referendum speech on sovereignty in which he made his infamous remark on “money and the ethnic vote.”

    It’s funny that everyone howled about the “ethnic vote” but not about the “money” part of the comment.
    The howling was mostly because it rang excruciatingly true: the immigrants are expected to side with the english, and when you have communities that vote the way their leaders tell them, how can you not call it an "ethnic vote"???
    Parizeau was right, and this is why everyone is angry at him.
    But still, the fact that no one howled about the “money” part is telling, because it is expected as a matter of course that big-money will work against the people of Québec, just as it always had.

    At the time I felt like I was watching a political show from a Banana Republic. The “Money and the Ethnic Vote” remark coming from a Provincial Premier shows the deep and pervasive the divide between Quebecers and those who they perceive as les autres.

    Well, yes! They are les autres indeed. They do not talk like us, and they don’t try to talk like us unless coerced. They are expected to take the side of our ennemy and we are not allowed to say anything in return? Bullshit!
    They come to Rome and they don’t do like the Romans do!

    Guy Charron provided a balanced analysis of the so-called Michaud Affair of 2000, in which a prominent PQ supporter made some inflammatory remarks on a radio station and before a public hearing on Quebec’s language laws. (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/queb-d29.shtml) Mr. Michaud quoted Abbé Lionel Groulx and made some provocative comments regarding immigrants in Quebec. He even made a reference to Howard Galganov! See the website for the full article and analysis.

    WAAAAAAHHH!!! More of the same bullshit!!!! That WSWS article only takes the viewpoint carried by the english.
    Michaud said, in jest, to a jewish friend while at the barber’s:

    «  Les Arméniens n'ont pas souffert, les Palestiniens ne souffrent pas, les Rwandais ne souffrent pas. J'ai dit : c'est toujours vous autres. Vous êtes le seul peuple au monde qui avez souffert dans l'histoire de l'humanité. »

    (For the french challenged):

    The armenians did not suffer, the palestinians do not suffer, the rwandans do not suffer. I said: it’s always you guys. You’re the only people in the world that ever suffered in the history of mankind.

    This was just the classical attempt at Québec-bashing by the Establishment. What is amazing is that it caught fire so much, but in reality, this was yet another tempest in a teapot that was a godsend for the usual Québec-bashers. I fail to see what could be contrived as being “antisemite” in the assertion that you mostly hear jews whining about the genocides they faced.

    Quebec’s recent hearings on Reasonable Accommodation were interesting because they revealed the vast polarization in the province. The small Quebec town of Hérouxville passed a resolution in Jan. 2007 giving “guidelines” for potential immigrants to the predominantly francophone, white, and Catholic Town

    So? It's just the usual country hicks knee-jerking at something they don’t know about, unlike the people in Montréal who are in daily contact with those “ethnic votes”. In the process, the Hérouxville people have just demonstrated how thoroughly douchy they are and made themselves a laughingstock.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Westerner

    Please take the time and read Canada on Google and take the time to read what it really says about this country and maybe you will learn something about our language laws instead or beleive bigots like Mr. Brown and Mr. Naimard who thinks all french canadians and english are superior in this country.

    French and english canadians are the main languages of Canada wether you like it or nor so accpet it and stop crying about this bilingual B.S we are all the same and Quebec language laws are ther to protect all quebecquers against you anglos.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    MR. NAIMARD

    VIVE LA SAINT JEAN BAPTISTS VIVE LES CANADIENS FRANCAIS NOUS SOMMES LES MEILLEURS JE SUIS FRANCO ONTARIORIEN MES JE SOUETTE LA SAINT JEAN BATISTE CAR JE SOUIS FRANCAIS.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    There is discrimination against 80% of Canadians in the federal government.

    There is discrimination against Anglophones in Quebec.

    CAB is here to remind people of these ugly little facts.

  • rob brown says:

    RON AND MR. NAIMARD,

    But I do wish you a happy St. Jean Baptiste Day. There can always be chivalry between adversaries.

    PS - I'll have a beer too :-)

    Sincerely,
    Rob Brown
    CAB

  • rob brown says:

    AND MR. FAGSTEIN TOO.. The tireless moderator of this site. How you do it, I don't know. But you certainly deserve praise, and best wishes on St. Jean Baptiste Day :-)

    Sincerely,
    Rob Brown
    CAB

  • Westerner says:

    Yes, it is your Quebec holiday and celebration ...so enjoy the day...tout le monde en Quebec pour certaine.

    J'espere que votre choses sera etre milleux pour tous.. C'est vrais de moi.

    Maintenaut; avoir une belle partie pour tout des personnes...francais et l'autres dans le belle province du Quebec. Apres tout...c'est une belle terre.

    Have a good time, all. Enjoy the day...I will have a biere avec vous.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Dear Mr. Fagstein, Mr Brown And Westerner

    As a french canadian I say thank you for celebrating our day and after working a hard shift I am drunk wright now and to you all and I say welcome to our festive holiday. And to Mr. Naimard ces notre journee de celebretation et vive tous les canadiens francais et les quebecquois ces notre fete.

    To all of you have a cold one on and never forget us we celebrate your holiday like we do the same for us today.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    Who are the bigots? This is an account of an anglophone journalist walking in the St. Jean Baptiste parade.

    "I was spat upon, had beer thrown on me; my cap was knocked off my head three times."

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/Life/great+stew/1699957/story.html

    I don't know of this happening to francophones anywhere in Canada.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Dear Mr. Brown

    Please do think that all french people are that way I have been badly treated by quebequers but I still love going into Montreal for the food and the souvenir shops and I still love this province allot just like I Ontario.

    Mr. Brown thank you for the respect and that I will not forget you are a real nice man even if we have diffrent opinions on various subjetcs.

    God Bless from Ronald

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    I like going to Montreal too, but I don't like seeing my language 1/2 size. This is discrimination by the government of Quebec against me.

  • rob brown says:

    THE ROLE OF THE U.S.A..

    The U.S. is 80% good, and 20% bad.

    On the plus side, the U.S. was critical in the liberation of Europe from the Nazis, and the liberation of Asia from the Japanese. After the war was over, the Americans assisted in rebuilding German and Japan. Subsequently, the Americans faced off against the Soviets until finally the Berlin wall came down, and the remaining countries of Europe were liberated from the Soviet grip. After this, the Americans forced Kim-Jong (the 1st) and the Chinese back into North Korea, thus liberating South Korea, and preserving freedom and democracy in large parts of Asia.

    On the negative side, the Americans have been guilty of meddling in the internal affairs of other nations for their own self-interest.

    On balance, the American good vastly out-weighs the bad.

    In Canada, we are faced with oppression in Quebec, and it will take determined effort to restore freedom to the people of Quebec. This will become known as the War of Words, and the result will be that people of all cultures and languages are respected.

    Sincerely,
    Rob Brown
    CAB.

  • Ronald ,Ottawa says:

    Dear Mr. Brown

    The United States are 90% wrong with the new leader also if it was not for the russian red army that fought against 80% of the german military and other armies that invaded their co8untry 65 years ago we would not be here today and my father who never forgot the russian sacrifice admits that he would of never landed in Belgium and acheive major objectives in Holland if it was not for the russian military. The United States supplied most of the military supplies to the allies and to the russian military who eventually build there own military by 1944 and by the end of the war had over 50,000 tanks and other armoured vehicles.

    North Korea is not being supported anymore by the russians and by China because they agree with Mr. O'Bama that North Korea is out of control and voted with the americans and I agree with that decision North Korea is out of control and deserve sactions to put them back into place.

    Quebec is a great province and may I sugest you leave this province alone and thank God for rain this ruins Canada Day and keeps all idiots inside and gives me a day of rest.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    There are 3 problems with your argument:

    1. The U.S. supported the Soviets during WWII, but then the Soviets became the new Nazis and took over Poland and many other countries by force. The U.S. had to kick the Soviets out of Europe after WWII and restore democracy and freedom to Eastern Europe.

    2. Even after beating both the Nazis and the Soviets, the U.S. helped to rebuild all these countries.

    3. Quebec is still a fascist province and needs to have its butt kicked out of Canada.

  • rob brown says:

    QUEBEC must either respect the human rights of all its citizens, or leave Canada.

  • rob brown says:

    RON,

    The U.S. has done more to help other countries than any other nation on Earth. Period.

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