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		<title>By: Fagstein &#187; More changes at The Gazette</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-18965</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein &#187; More changes at The Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Radz (Theatre): Replaced on that beat by former books columnist Pat Donnelly. (He had a few comments about Canwest now that he doesn&#8217;t have to worry about being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Radz (Theatre): Replaced on that beat by former books columnist Pat Donnelly. (He had a few comments about Canwest now that he doesn&#8217;t have to worry about being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein &#187; Welcome to the new Canwest</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-14405</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein &#187; Welcome to the new Canwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is before the buyouts.   Tags: CanWest  Comments RSS feed &#124;Trackback URL    &#171; 5 buts = 8 ailes = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is before the buyouts.   Tags: CanWest  Comments RSS feed |Trackback URL    &laquo; 5 buts = 8 ailes = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein &#187; Jack Todd among columnists leaving The Gazette</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-11771</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein &#187; Jack Todd among columnists leaving The Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] might remember when The Gazette announced it was cutting staff through attrition &#8212; offering buyouts to seasoned full-time editorial staff to reduce it by about 20 people. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] might remember when The Gazette announced it was cutting staff through attrition &#8212; offering buyouts to seasoned full-time editorial staff to reduce it by about 20 people. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein &#187; The Link profiles The Gazette</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-6737</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein &#187; The Link profiles The Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Link at Concordia has a feature article about CanWest and specifically The Gazette cutting staff in its newsroom. It includes an interview with Gazette editor-in-chief Andrew Phillips, who says the shift from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Link at Concordia has a feature article about CanWest and specifically The Gazette cutting staff in its newsroom. It includes an interview with Gazette editor-in-chief Andrew Phillips, who says the shift from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matt radz</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>matt radz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under a ukase from head office to trim budget, Gazette is making an offer they can't refuse to 20 or so longtime "editorial grunts"? Is there a higher principle than money  here? 
Check the Journalism Project article, re Canwest finances. Read the Edmonton comment and then consider this line  from a recent John Fogarty song about what's really going down, from his Revival 2007 album:

"Wreck the paper;
close the school ..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under a ukase from head office to trim budget, Gazette is making an offer they can&#8217;t refuse to 20 or so longtime &#8220;editorial grunts&#8221;? Is there a higher principle than money  here?<br />
Check the Journalism Project article, re Canwest finances. Read the Edmonton comment and then consider this line  from a recent John Fogarty song about what&#8217;s really going down, from his Revival 2007 album:</p>
<p>&#8220;Wreck the paper;<br />
close the school &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Abby West</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2526</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at the Edmonton Journal. I am one of those being offered 3 weeks for every year worked, to a maximum of 78 weeks. Content providers are not the ones they want to leave. It's "deskers" - copy editors who put content on the pages, choose and crop the pictures, edit the copy and cut it to fit the space available, write the headlines and subheads and add creative touches like pull quotes and art elements. Day shifts are most affected; pages featuring wire copy not likely to be updated are to be done remotely in Hamilton, On., Local news pages will still be done locally. Night deskers are still needed, but not as many and very few day copy editors will be required. Professional reporters and photojournalists who provide quality news coverage are still more important to the paper than "amateurs".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at the Edmonton Journal. I am one of those being offered 3 weeks for every year worked, to a maximum of 78 weeks. Content providers are not the ones they want to leave. It&#8217;s &#8220;deskers&#8221; - copy editors who put content on the pages, choose and crop the pictures, edit the copy and cut it to fit the space available, write the headlines and subheads and add creative touches like pull quotes and art elements. Day shifts are most affected; pages featuring wire copy not likely to be updated are to be done remotely in Hamilton, On., Local news pages will still be done locally. Night deskers are still needed, but not as many and very few day copy editors will be required. Professional reporters and photojournalists who provide quality news coverage are still more important to the paper than &#8220;amateurs&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful submitting stuff this way. Read their contract:

You give CanWest and all its properties the "non-exclusive and royalty-free right and license, (but not the obligation), &lt;b&gt;in perpetuity, throughout the world, in any and all media now known or hereafter devised&lt;/b&gt;, to communicate to the public by way of unlimited public broadcast use of your Content or any part thereof"

You hereby expressly waive, to the fullest extent permitted by law, any so-called "&lt;b&gt;moral rights&lt;/b&gt;" which may now or may hereafter be recognized by legislative enactment or otherwise at law or in equity with respect to the Content.

"...shall have the right to use your Content &lt;b&gt;in any manner in its sole discretion&lt;/b&gt; within the terms of this license, including, but not limited to the right to edit your Content to accommodate broadcast, broadcast distribution and publishing requirements and/or policies; and to add to, delete from, edit, alter and otherwise combine the Content with other content in any manner and in any media whatsoever."

In other words, submitting anything by this form gives them all rights to it, including the right to strip your name from it and sell it to other companies without offering you a dime.

All this for the &lt;i&gt;possibility&lt;/i&gt; that what you upload might be used on their crappy website?

What fucked-up pot are they smoking that makes them think people are going to flock to this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful submitting stuff this way. Read their contract:</p>
<p>You give CanWest and all its properties the &#8220;non-exclusive and royalty-free right and license, (but not the obligation), <b>in perpetuity, throughout the world, in any and all media now known or hereafter devised</b>, to communicate to the public by way of unlimited public broadcast use of your Content or any part thereof&#8221;</p>
<p>You hereby expressly waive, to the fullest extent permitted by law, any so-called &#8220;<b>moral rights</b>&#8221; which may now or may hereafter be recognized by legislative enactment or otherwise at law or in equity with respect to the Content.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;shall have the right to use your Content <b>in any manner in its sole discretion</b> within the terms of this license, including, but not limited to the right to edit your Content to accommodate broadcast, broadcast distribution and publishing requirements and/or policies; and to add to, delete from, edit, alter and otherwise combine the Content with other content in any manner and in any media whatsoever.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, submitting anything by this form gives them all rights to it, including the right to strip your name from it and sell it to other companies without offering you a dime.</p>
<p>All this for the <i>possibility</i> that what you upload might be used on their crappy website?</p>
<p>What fucked-up pot are they smoking that makes them think people are going to flock to this?</p>
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		<title>By: princess iveylocks</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2510</link>
		<dc:creator>princess iveylocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>present the facts *well*; sorry, I get paid to think in numbers and notation... lash me with the indignant whip if you must, but *I* am not a journalist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>present the facts *well*; sorry, I get paid to think in numbers and notation&#8230; lash me with the indignant whip if you must, but *I* am not a journalist!</p>
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		<title>By: princess iveylocks</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>princess iveylocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the laziest, dullest, and least-verbally-inclined people I know are journalists. However, working alongside them are sparkling archetypes of talent, diligence, and aptitude. 

Perhaps the questions we should be asking are: where do stories fall apart during news production? (e.g., writing, fact-checking, editing) How does this differ from in the past, when free [online] content wasn't available? How have audience expectations changed, regarding timeliness, accuracy, and originality, and what are the best methods of meeting these?

I've formed my own opinions on the matter, and automatically rubber-stamping bloated newsrooms isn't the answer. heri's right; as you know, some journalists are unable to pick up the goddamn phone and call a source, let alone keep informed about current affairs, read widely, or, hell, even spell someone's name correctly. It's not even because they're lazy -- it's because editors, publishers, and even readers let them away with it for years. 

Are you surprised that readers now look elsewhere for media that suits their inclinations? I'm not. Why should I pay someone to copy-paste a CP story (errors intact or inserted as bonuses) into a newspaper when I can skim it online, obtain the primary documents myself, even call up the parties involved (who are probably delighted to offer clarification, particularly if the first carbon-copy interview was bungled), and draw my own conclusions?  Egotistically, I'm positive that readers don't need someone to digest baby formula for them, thanks. Reporters who shy away from obvious uninformed generalizations and present the facts wall, or import novel insight into the issue from their own experiences or research, win my readership. Frankly, most journalists just aren't up to snuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the laziest, dullest, and least-verbally-inclined people I know are journalists. However, working alongside them are sparkling archetypes of talent, diligence, and aptitude. </p>
<p>Perhaps the questions we should be asking are: where do stories fall apart during news production? (e.g., writing, fact-checking, editing) How does this differ from in the past, when free [online] content wasn&#8217;t available? How have audience expectations changed, regarding timeliness, accuracy, and originality, and what are the best methods of meeting these?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve formed my own opinions on the matter, and automatically rubber-stamping bloated newsrooms isn&#8217;t the answer. heri&#8217;s right; as you know, some journalists are unable to pick up the goddamn phone and call a source, let alone keep informed about current affairs, read widely, or, hell, even spell someone&#8217;s name correctly. It&#8217;s not even because they&#8217;re lazy &#8212; it&#8217;s because editors, publishers, and even readers let them away with it for years. </p>
<p>Are you surprised that readers now look elsewhere for media that suits their inclinations? I&#8217;m not. Why should I pay someone to copy-paste a CP story (errors intact or inserted as bonuses) into a newspaper when I can skim it online, obtain the primary documents myself, even call up the parties involved (who are probably delighted to offer clarification, particularly if the first carbon-copy interview was bungled), and draw my own conclusions?  Egotistically, I&#8217;m positive that readers don&#8217;t need someone to digest baby formula for them, thanks. Reporters who shy away from obvious uninformed generalizations and present the facts wall, or import novel insight into the issue from their own experiences or research, win my readership. Frankly, most journalists just aren&#8217;t up to snuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoey Castelino</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoey Castelino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems more and more these days that freelancing is the way to go for both writers and newsrooms. It costs the publication less and there's always a supply of writers looking to get their name in ink.  Sadly, gone are the days of newsrooms like the one seen in "The Paper".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems more and more these days that freelancing is the way to go for both writers and newsrooms. It costs the publication less and there&#8217;s always a supply of writers looking to get their name in ink.  Sadly, gone are the days of newsrooms like the one seen in &#8220;The Paper&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: blork</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2498</link>
		<dc:creator>blork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big outlets are worried that they're losing readers to "citizen journalism" (e.g., Orato, etc.), and they are right. So this is their attempt to try to lure some of those readers back.

I hope that we find a way for the two to co-exist. Mainstream, established journalism has one thing that most citizen journalists and blogs don't have; authority. There are rules, editors, codes of conduct, and other checks and balances in place in order to create and preserve that authority. That authority, however, can be called into question when the outlet's business interests become too obvious.

Blogs and citizen journalists don't really have that authority, but they make up for it by presenting freshness and immediacy, and in some cases a sense of "authenticity" that you don't usually find in mainstream journalism. 

Both are necessary. The trick is finding a way for them to co-exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big outlets are worried that they&#8217;re losing readers to &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; (e.g., Orato, etc.), and they are right. So this is their attempt to try to lure some of those readers back.</p>
<p>I hope that we find a way for the two to co-exist. Mainstream, established journalism has one thing that most citizen journalists and blogs don&#8217;t have; authority. There are rules, editors, codes of conduct, and other checks and balances in place in order to create and preserve that authority. That authority, however, can be called into question when the outlet&#8217;s business interests become too obvious.</p>
<p>Blogs and citizen journalists don&#8217;t really have that authority, but they make up for it by presenting freshness and immediacy, and in some cases a sense of &#8220;authenticity&#8221; that you don&#8217;t usually find in mainstream journalism. </p>
<p>Both are necessary. The trick is finding a way for them to co-exist.</p>
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		<title>By: heri</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/01/staff-reductions-at-the-gazette/#comment-2494</link>
		<dc:creator>heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when one or ten bloggers can do the work of a journalist, then journalists are useless.

however, we are talking here about news that are easy to pick up. 

bloggers don't do investigative journalism, they don't travel to other countries/cities, they won't seek interviews or go to press conferences. so for those kind of news, journalists are here to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when one or ten bloggers can do the work of a journalist, then journalists are useless.</p>
<p>however, we are talking here about news that are easy to pick up. </p>
<p>bloggers don&#8217;t do investigative journalism, they don&#8217;t travel to other countries/cities, they won&#8217;t seek interviews or go to press conferences. so for those kind of news, journalists are here to stay.</p>
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