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		<title>By: princess iveylocks</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2693</link>
		<dc:creator>princess iveylocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Myth 12: Anglos have horns growing out the sides of their heads&lt;/b&gt;

I also have a tail growing out of my... never mind.</description>
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<p>I also have a tail growing out of my&#8230; never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeWolf</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher DeWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I also grew up in Alberta, and I have to say that an anglo transplant from that province is probably more likely to speak French than an anglo transplant from BC or Ontario. French immersion is hugely popular in Alberta, especially among upper middle-class and immigrant families. There are also a lot of ex-Montrealers in Calgary (they came in two waves, one during the 1970s and the other in the 1990s) and they seem very concerned about making sure their kids speak French.

On a similar note, I'm not sure why McGill gets so muck flak. Its FRSL courses are really exceptional. Two years of French at McGill will do way more for you than 12 years of "core French" education at any ROC school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I also grew up in Alberta, and I have to say that an anglo transplant from that province is probably more likely to speak French than an anglo transplant from BC or Ontario. French immersion is hugely popular in Alberta, especially among upper middle-class and immigrant families. There are also a lot of ex-Montrealers in Calgary (they came in two waves, one during the 1970s and the other in the 1990s) and they seem very concerned about making sure their kids speak French.</p>
<p>On a similar note, I&#8217;m not sure why McGill gets so muck flak. Its FRSL courses are really exceptional. Two years of French at McGill will do way more for you than 12 years of &#8220;core French&#8221; education at any ROC school.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comments about Alberta were based mostly on comments from Conservative (then Canadian Alliance) MPs that bilingual requirements for hiring were discriminating against anglophones.

Mind you, now that I'm looking it up, the two MPs I found with statements of that nature came from Saskatchewan and Ontario, not Alberta. Other comments can be seen &lt;a href="http://www.languagefairness.org/Quotes.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments about Alberta were based mostly on comments from Conservative (then Canadian Alliance) MPs that bilingual requirements for hiring were discriminating against anglophones.</p>
<p>Mind you, now that I&#8217;m looking it up, the two MPs I found with statements of that nature came from Saskatchewan and Ontario, not Alberta. Other comments can be seen <a href="http://www.languagefairness.org/Quotes.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> about the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamplemousse</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamplemousse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I appreciate you defence of anglos in Québec, as I am one, I have to take you to task for encouraging even more myths, specifically comments regarding Alberta.

I am from Alberta. I am not especially proud of that, but I'm not ashamed either. 

First off, I have rarely heard any thing more disparaging to the french language other than 'those frogs sure sound funny, eh?' Nobody seems to be seriously put out that federal jobs often require french language skills.

Why? Because there actually are very vibrant and healthy french communities across Alberta. Entire towns where french is the primary language. That goes for Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario aswell (I'm not as certain regarding BC). 

Add to that that almost every grade school kid has to be exposed to french class at some point and that many, many people, such as myself, are the products of french immersion. The University of Alberta actually has a faculty that operates entirely in french (in a neighbourhood of Edmonton that is largely french speaking). 

Although Alberta has a love affair with conservative politics, I would encourage you to look at a map and realize that it is a largely rural province with an awe inspiring bible belt all of its own. According to Québec's little Reasonable Accommodation Commission, one can quickly surmise that Québec has it's own issues with right wing politics and a similar belt of religion, (as does Ontario... anyone else remember Mike Harris?) 

Ignorance is not the sole property of the right. An ex-boss of mine here in Montréal, decided that I was not terribly intelligent because of the fact that I came from Alberta. Had he not been dumb enough to tell this to another employee, I may have only been able to guess that he saw me as a country bumpkin.

And while I am capable of saddling a horse, shooting a rifle, and driving a quad up a mountain, I can also read books without pictures, enjoy a documentary, drink fine wine and tell the difference between good coffee and that swill at Tim Horton's. 

Perhaps a critique of generalisations should not include more generalisations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I appreciate you defence of anglos in Québec, as I am one, I have to take you to task for encouraging even more myths, specifically comments regarding Alberta.</p>
<p>I am from Alberta. I am not especially proud of that, but I&#8217;m not ashamed either. </p>
<p>First off, I have rarely heard any thing more disparaging to the french language other than &#8216;those frogs sure sound funny, eh?&#8217; Nobody seems to be seriously put out that federal jobs often require french language skills.</p>
<p>Why? Because there actually are very vibrant and healthy french communities across Alberta. Entire towns where french is the primary language. That goes for Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario aswell (I&#8217;m not as certain regarding BC). </p>
<p>Add to that that almost every grade school kid has to be exposed to french class at some point and that many, many people, such as myself, are the products of french immersion. The University of Alberta actually has a faculty that operates entirely in french (in a neighbourhood of Edmonton that is largely french speaking). </p>
<p>Although Alberta has a love affair with conservative politics, I would encourage you to look at a map and realize that it is a largely rural province with an awe inspiring bible belt all of its own. According to Québec&#8217;s little Reasonable Accommodation Commission, one can quickly surmise that Québec has it&#8217;s own issues with right wing politics and a similar belt of religion, (as does Ontario&#8230; anyone else remember Mike Harris?) </p>
<p>Ignorance is not the sole property of the right. An ex-boss of mine here in Montréal, decided that I was not terribly intelligent because of the fact that I came from Alberta. Had he not been dumb enough to tell this to another employee, I may have only been able to guess that he saw me as a country bumpkin.</p>
<p>And while I am capable of saddling a horse, shooting a rifle, and driving a quad up a mountain, I can also read books without pictures, enjoy a documentary, drink fine wine and tell the difference between good coffee and that swill at Tim Horton&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Perhaps a critique of generalisations should not include more generalisations.</p>
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		<title>By: french panic</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>french panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We’re proud of its culture, its heritage, its women".  

Very interesting that Montrealers are still bizarrely proud of such a trite genderalization:  Montreal as a mecca comprised of hot women.  Are you referring to the throat-cancered croakers of a certain age with high waisted leather pants and brittle blonde-bleached or red-hennaed hair?  Or all those fat Wal-Mart/Costco shoppers in the burbs?  Or is it the 20 something anorexics with the geometrically-challenged hair cuts that you are referring to?  They look pretty, yes, but have you ever had to sit next to them on the bus or metro?  Bad breath and horrifying body odour.  Seriously gross.  (Okay, that was just during one morning commute, but having a stinking hairy armpit waved in my face by one smelly lass followed by her companion yawning her deathbreath all over me... it's left a lasting impression.)

Montrealers being proud of "its women"?  What sort of crazy irresponsible pap is that?  Women are trophies to be lauded?  WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’re proud of its culture, its heritage, its women&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Very interesting that Montrealers are still bizarrely proud of such a trite genderalization:  Montreal as a mecca comprised of hot women.  Are you referring to the throat-cancered croakers of a certain age with high waisted leather pants and brittle blonde-bleached or red-hennaed hair?  Or all those fat Wal-Mart/Costco shoppers in the burbs?  Or is it the 20 something anorexics with the geometrically-challenged hair cuts that you are referring to?  They look pretty, yes, but have you ever had to sit next to them on the bus or metro?  Bad breath and horrifying body odour.  Seriously gross.  (Okay, that was just during one morning commute, but having a stinking hairy armpit waved in my face by one smelly lass followed by her companion yawning her deathbreath all over me&#8230; it&#8217;s left a lasting impression.)</p>
<p>Montrealers being proud of &#8220;its women&#8221;?  What sort of crazy irresponsible pap is that?  Women are trophies to be lauded?  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Tremblay L.</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2673</link>
		<dc:creator>Tremblay L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. The article on Montreal in the Soleil is disgusting. The Montreal the guy (who's that guy anyway??) is describing is awfully pessimistic and outdated. I doubt the author is even living in montreal.

I've been born and raised in 99.9% francophone, catholic Lac-St-Jean. I'm personnaly separatist for my reasons. I love Montreal as you do for it's mix of different cultures. Montreal wouldn't be what it is without anglos and francos. The Montreal I love is bilingual, multicultural and most importantly open-minded. 

The problem is one of communication and education. Some Anglos need to realize separatists aren't english-haters and some Francophones need to realize most anglos are just like them and they love quebec's culture. And we need to talk. There should be a tv show or something on radio-canada where a reporter would meet people from the english-communities and talk to them. 

We gotta fight against ignorance and misconceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. The article on Montreal in the Soleil is disgusting. The Montreal the guy (who&#8217;s that guy anyway??) is describing is awfully pessimistic and outdated. I doubt the author is even living in montreal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been born and raised in 99.9% francophone, catholic Lac-St-Jean. I&#8217;m personnaly separatist for my reasons. I love Montreal as you do for it&#8217;s mix of different cultures. Montreal wouldn&#8217;t be what it is without anglos and francos. The Montreal I love is bilingual, multicultural and most importantly open-minded. </p>
<p>The problem is one of communication and education. Some Anglos need to realize separatists aren&#8217;t english-haters and some Francophones need to realize most anglos are just like them and they love quebec&#8217;s culture. And we need to talk. There should be a tv show or something on radio-canada where a reporter would meet people from the english-communities and talk to them. </p>
<p>We gotta fight against ignorance and misconceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: heri</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2666</link>
		<dc:creator>heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey fagstein, i will have to reflect the points you just made about anglos, but i just read pierre desjardins's column and it "sounds right". i agree with him about lack of architecture, problems with roads, infrastructure, economic problems. someone should step up for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey fagstein, i will have to reflect the points you just made about anglos, but i just read pierre desjardins&#8217;s column and it &#8220;sounds right&#8221;. i agree with him about lack of architecture, problems with roads, infrastructure, economic problems. someone should step up for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2660</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak for yourself. My head is a perfect pentagon.</description>
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		<title>By: Kate M.</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/12/anglo-myths-exposed/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anglos do, however, need to take 4 aspirins for their headaches. One for each corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anglos do, however, need to take 4 aspirins for their headaches. One for each corner.</p>
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