Comments on: Gas company critics are hypocrites http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/23/gas-company-critics-are-hypocrites/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:25:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sean lavelle http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/23/gas-company-critics-are-hypocrites/comment-page-1/#comment-4229 sean lavelle Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:01:48 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/23/gas-company-critics-are-hypocrites/#comment-4229 The "federal freebate" program is a good idea. The argument that people who are pursuaded to go by green machines might not buy at all but walk or use public transport if there were no freebate doesnt hold water. It assumes that buying new is the only choice! But with cheaper, older MORE polluting cars/pickups available for less money, thats where the person will likely spend their cash. I ride a bicycle when I can. I bought my first NEW car ever because of the $5000 rebate given in Oregon for the prius. I have owned about 20 or so USED cars through the years. These cars had large engines as preferred by those (who BUY NEW) that bought them. The more incentives there are to buy NEW green cars INSTEAD of gas guzzlers the BETTER since what is purchased NEW NOW, decides what is available USED in a few years time. And every prius sold now will occupy a space on the road that will Not be occupied by some v8 USED car buyers have little influence on the market although they make up the larger portion of the market. They can drive UP the price of USED green cars, but CANNOT increase supply. Car manufacturers are only interested in what NEW car buyers want. Without that rebate I would have bought a USED car and had NO EFFECT on what car manufacturers produce, The rebate allowed me to cast my VOTE to car manufacturers to increase supply of green cars (through the NEW car market) Look at prius success with US fed rebate! Why do you think GM wants a piece of the action? REBATES! The "federal freebate" program is a good idea.
The argument that people who are pursuaded to go by green machines might not buy at all but walk or use public transport if there were no freebate doesnt hold water.
It assumes that buying new is the only choice! But with cheaper, older MORE polluting cars/pickups available for less money, thats where the person will likely spend their cash.
I ride a bicycle when I can.
I bought my first NEW car ever because of the $5000 rebate given in Oregon for the prius.
I have owned about 20 or so USED cars through the years.
These cars had large engines as preferred by those (who BUY NEW) that bought them.
The more incentives there are to buy NEW green cars INSTEAD of gas guzzlers the BETTER since what is purchased NEW NOW, decides what is available USED in a few years time.
And every prius sold now will occupy a space on the road that will Not be occupied by some v8

USED car buyers have little influence on the market although they make up the larger portion of the market.
They can drive UP the price of USED green cars, but CANNOT increase supply.
Car manufacturers are only interested in what NEW car buyers want.
Without that rebate I would have bought a USED car and had NO EFFECT on what car manufacturers produce,
The rebate allowed me to cast my VOTE to car manufacturers to increase supply of green cars (through the NEW car market)
Look at prius success with US fed rebate! Why do you think GM wants a piece of the action? REBATES!

]]> By: Denis Canuel http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/23/gas-company-critics-are-hypocrites/comment-page-1/#comment-3863 Denis Canuel Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:19:04 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/23/gas-company-critics-are-hypocrites/#comment-3863 Gas is not expensive. Gas is limited. You burn it, it’s gone. Forever. No more. Done with it. It costs less than 1.20$ per litre or so and costs a lot to produce. Milk comes from an animal which (in theory) could supply as much as we wanted. We have so much milk that angry farmers throw it away. It costs over 1.50$ per litre and doesn’t cost a much as gas to produce. So how do you feel about destroying something that will never be replaced for just 1.20$ per litre? Pretty (too) cheap to me… Gas is not expensive. Gas is limited. You burn it, it’s gone. Forever. No more. Done with it.
It costs less than 1.20$ per litre or so and costs a lot to produce.

Milk comes from an animal which (in theory) could supply as much as we wanted.
We have so much milk that angry farmers throw it away.
It costs over 1.50$ per litre and doesn’t cost a much as gas to produce.

So how do you feel about destroying something that will never be replaced for just 1.20$ per litre? Pretty (too) cheap to me…

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