"I am an anglophile for independence"

http://www.voir.ca/blogs/franois_parenteau/archive/2008/02/20/i-am-an-anglophile-for-independence.aspx

By the way, I'm quite bilingual (I wrote this by myself, even if the automatic spelling corrector on my computer kept indicating to me that almost all my words were errors... so forgive me if there are some in english), and have said repetedly that while the fight to make sure that Quebec remains a french culture is important, we need to make our anglophones neighbors feel included and deal with them in the most open-minded way, as indiduals, and that being able to speak english for a francophone today doesn't represent a threat to the french language and is in fact a necessity of modern life almost everywehere.

Yep. One can be an independantist and still be human... Even if some people would like it otherwise...

Since I discovered to my horror that this big misunderstanding was getting echoed through the net, I felt the need to at least be precise about what my intentions were. Because a civilized debate is always better than misinformed mud-slinging.

François Parenteau

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Lance you crack me up with your laughable premises to hate French people. Be sure to move down south, Alabama even where you'll be welcomed there. The love hating. They hates the black man over there though, not the French man. But hate is blind and clean I'm sure you'll adapt quickly.

It's so easy to pick out those bumps in the road where the system failed and make your case for it like the religious who can find anything to prove their point in their little book of scripture. The exceptions don't brake a rule, they often confirm it. Problem Diagnostics 101. You have issues in your life and you want to point the finger at something. You have internal problems and want to find an external cause to it. You are very sad.

And I want you banned because you spread lies, not because I can't handle criticism, you didn't offer any.

Wow.

"Regretfully, we must also mention that the motion and the documents filed in support of it include anti-Semitic sentiment and views that most might have thought had disappeared from Canadian society, and even more so from legal debate in Canada. Our society is a diverse one, home to the widest variety of ethnic, linguistic and cultural groups. In this society, to resort to discourse and actions that profoundly contradict the principles of equality and mutual respect that are the foundations of our public life shows a lack of respect for the fundamental rules governing our public institutions and, more specifically, our courts and the justice system."

And more recently in the dissent written in Bruker v. Marcovitz, 2007 SCC 54 at: http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2007/2007scc54/2007scc54.html

Antisemitism in and among French Quebec, I'm afraid, is not just historical, but alive and well in the here and now.

My point of view, that I believe is well supported, both historically and morally, is that the French in Quebec province should disappear. I believe that the best way to effect this result is for there to be a full separation of Quebec from Canada. (I am a fifth generation English-speaking resident of Montreal by the way.) After Quebec independence, for economic and cultural reasons, Quebec would give up the whole French-language supremacist tyranny real fast. Canada, the mythical state that it is, would also disappear. Provinces such as Alberta and Ontario would quickly be absorbed into the United States; the other provinces, however, would likely have to wait in line behind Puerto Rico.

Quebec, however, in an effort to maintain its standard of living, would cease to be French and make special pleading for incorporation into the United States; but would, again, have to wait behind Puerto Rico.

Unfortunately, all of this could take at least ten years; and perhaps as many as fifty years. I'm not willing to wait that long. The Bouchard-Taylor nonsense, the very ugly epithet "anglophone," ect., has convinced me that I can no longer wait for this cesspool to self-destruct. I'm off to America where fundamental rights are granted by God through the U.S. Constitution; and not by the indulgence of a tyrannical majority that can withdraw the same at a capricious whim.

Does Fagstein see from whence the intolerance originates? Will he censor me in an effort to convince the oppressor that he is not, indeed, a spoiled child that can run over the basic human dignity of others notwithstanding the language that he or she speaks? Why is it acceptable to discriminate based on language? Once discrimination of any kind is legalized, as it is in Quebec province, it is a short step to discriminate on equally fundamental human characteristics. So I ask: Who is the racist!

Say everyone has a right to their opinion and I'm sending the snippers. ;)

One is about language (and it's la faute du fédérale). The other is about traditions (and seems to be the fault of the immigrants themselves, even if they're not the ones asking for it).

In context:
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=ac7c3abc-abc8-4896-9225-741521abdd9b&k=68704

As an immigrant to Quebec, I'm seeing Quebecers slowly shifting into a kind of panic mode as they realize their "thoroughbred" population is falling as outsiders are coming in to replace them. One must wonder, at the rate it's going, how long it will take for foreigners to outnumber natives.

At that point, one can argue, Quebec culture as we define it today will pretty much be history.

Some people face this scenario with dialog. Informed debate. Strategies to adapt. Others, like Parenteau, prefer to ape the ugliest of humanity, the kind shown by ignorant reactionaries in the Bouchard-Talylor roadshow. You know, the type of behaviour that most francophone Montrealers, at least those I call friends, are embarrassed about.

The only reason this is an issue is because people like yourself decide to make it one.

(Ed: This message was edited to conform to my draconian censorship rules. Let's keep it civil people)

The "collectivity" in this province have, unsurprisingly, an "identity" problem; accordingly, the problem and the remedy rest with properly defining this '"identity" problem.'

Just as Israel can never seem to solve its "palestinian" problem, because they are a "people" that were invented for political reasons, (when armed aggression failed), so too there can never be a Canadian solution for its Quebec problem, for similar reasons. (I would add, at least, the French in Quebec are no longer taking hostages or planting bombs; well, that is, at least recently.)

Like most of society's problems, education and communication are the antidote. Sadly, some people seem to be steadfastly against both.

We should be celebrating the fact that we can speak two languages here. We should be promoting it as an economic strength.

I'll drink to that.