Comments on: STM to introduce Old Port bus, 470 gets weekend service http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/ Can you think of a better name? Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:11:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/#comment-28911 Fagstein Sat, 10 May 2008 20:27:54 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=1734#comment-28911 You kind of hit the nail on the head there. There are plenty of people (say, those with reduced mobility or who only want to travel a few blocks) who prefer to take the buses that travel along the metro routes (this also includes the 17 Decarie, 30/31 Saint-Denis, 34 Sainte-Catherine and 93 Jean-Talon, as well as parts of other routes). You kind of hit the nail on the head there. There are plenty of people (say, those with reduced mobility or who only want to travel a few blocks) who prefer to take the buses that travel along the metro routes (this also includes the 17 Decarie, 30/31 Saint-Denis, 34 Sainte-Catherine and 93 Jean-Talon, as well as parts of other routes).

]]> By: Chris http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/#comment-28904 Chris Sat, 10 May 2008 20:10:47 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=1734#comment-28904 The 15 Sainte-Catherine has always struck me as a strange route. It only comes once every half hour and the Metro can get you anywhere the downtown portion could much faster (although, it's along de Maisonneuve). I've always assumed they only keep it running for people who need to travel east-west through downtown but don't want to take the Metro for whatever reason or for days when the Metro is down. I think the most people I've ever seen on that bus was about 6. The 15 Sainte-Catherine has always struck me as a strange route. It only comes once every half hour and the Metro can get you anywhere the downtown portion could much faster (although, it’s along de Maisonneuve). I’ve always assumed they only keep it running for people who need to travel east-west through downtown but don’t want to take the Metro for whatever reason or for days when the Metro is down. I think the most people I’ve ever seen on that bus was about 6.

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/#comment-28856 Fagstein Sat, 10 May 2008 01:46:55 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=1734#comment-28856 Previous buses in the Old Montreal area have failed before due to low ridership (most notably the 19 bus). The problems are similar to what the 15 Sainte-Catherine currently experiences: high traffic, to the point where it's easier to walk, and little maneuvrability. The reserved lanes should fix that somewhat. In addition, because the route would be structured more as a shuttle to the metro than as a local bus, the STM is betting that the demand from clientele will be larger, both in the summer during tourist season and in the winter when residents won't want to walk as much. Previous buses in the Old Montreal area have failed before due to low ridership (most notably the 19 bus). The problems are similar to what the 15 Sainte-Catherine currently experiences: high traffic, to the point where it’s easier to walk, and little maneuvrability. The reserved lanes should fix that somewhat.

In addition, because the route would be structured more as a shuttle to the metro than as a local bus, the STM is betting that the demand from clientele will be larger, both in the summer during tourist season and in the winter when residents won’t want to walk as much.

]]> By: James Lawlor http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/#comment-28855 James Lawlor Sat, 10 May 2008 01:32:06 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=1734#comment-28855 Is there any information about the 220 Kieran route? According to canada411.ca, there are only two companies on this street: Modungo-Hortibec and Procaps. There is already the rush hour 175 from du-college that terminates at the southern end of bois-de-liesse (not exactly an express though). The 215/225/213 (east bound only) all pass quite near to Kieran (700m or 1km) What portion of the How much is STM paying for this extra service. I hope 0%! I didn't think that the STM had solved their bus shortage problem. When I speak (complain) to COs at metro stations they regularly tell me that they are missing buses from their service pattern. This is the reason why scheduled buses don't show up at the stop! Won't these announcements make the shortage worse? Most of the routes are off-peak service adjustments so they should not cause too much trouble. The 515 was tried in the past and was abandoned due to lack of ridership. Look at pages 56 and 57 of the AMT's document from last year: http://www.amt.qc.ca/corpo/colloques/mercredisamt/docs/Systèmes%20légers%20sur%20rail%20-%2018%20avril%202007.pdf Is there any information about the 220 Kieran route? According to canada411.ca, there are only two companies on this street: Modungo-Hortibec and Procaps.

There is already the rush hour 175 from du-college that terminates at the southern end of bois-de-liesse (not exactly an express though). The 215/225/213 (east bound only) all pass quite near to Kieran (700m or 1km)

What portion of the How much is STM paying for this extra service. I hope 0%!

I didn’t think that the STM had solved their bus shortage problem. When I speak (complain) to COs at metro stations they regularly tell me that they are missing buses from their service pattern. This is the reason why scheduled buses don’t show up at the stop!

Won’t these announcements make the shortage worse? Most of the routes are off-peak service adjustments so they should not cause too much trouble.

The 515 was tried in the past and was abandoned due to lack of ridership. Look at pages 56 and 57 of the AMT’s document from last year:
http://www.amt.qc.ca/corpo/colloques/mercredisamt/docs/Systèmes%20légers%20sur%20rail%20-%2018%20avril%202007.pdf

]]> By: Shawn http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/09/bus-route-changes/#comment-28831 Shawn Fri, 09 May 2008 17:34:52 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=1734#comment-28831 Wow. Where were all these great options when I used to live in DDO? Wow. Where were all these great options when I used to live in DDO?

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