And calling someone that is considered extremely offensive, not to mention ignorant. I believe the same applies here.

Offensive, yes, absolutely. By design and all intents and purpose. Ignorant? I daresay no.
And, besides, the US blacks have been brought as slaves which is not exactly the same situation as ours being occupied by the english.
When a country is stolen/occupied by a foreign power, and the occupier use their laws to advantage themselves and suppress attempts to free it from the occupier, why should those occupied who collaborate with the occupier by siding with them deserve any respect?
The britiish empire trademark has been to use one faction of the colonized to do their dirty work for them (why do you think tamils are being discriminated against in Sri-Lanka? They were the british minions, that’s why*). Here, the Trudeaux, Chétiens and all that liberal ilk (starting at Cartier and Laurier) did the job. (I don’t mention Bourassa because he was a moins que rien). And why do you think that an overwhelming proportion of native land claims are in Québec (the other in B.C.), and why do you think the federal has been dragging it’s feet with the Kanesatake business — it’s still not an indian reserve — if only to divide and rule????
Why the french who blatantly side with the english shall deserve any respect???
 
History‘s greatest lesson shall be that no one shall reap any reward for selling-out his nation but eternal scorn.
 
* Not that I approve of the merciless bombardment of the tamils, but they kinda brought it upon themselves when they invented suicide bombing 35 years ago… No, Oussama did not invent anything.

U.S. blacks have what they call “oreos”. They’re black outside, and white on the inside

And calling someone that is considered extremely offensive, not to mention ignorant. I believe the same applies here.

Jean is the one massively pro-101. I’m not. Not one bit.

U.S. blacks have what they call “oreos”. They’re black outside, and white on the inside (I suppose that here, in the same situation, we’d call them “whippets”…). Here we have the same thing: they are french outside, but english on the inside. Trudeau was a prime example of that, and when you look carefully, there are still plenty of those going around… After 250 years, they still have not clued-in that the english will give nothing, unless you put a gun to their head.

I have called Jean a Nazi sympathizer and I have made multiple “ethnic cleansing” comparisons with the methods used by the Nazi party and the PQ.

Ensuring that the immigrants don’t turn into english is **NOT** ethnic cleansing. No english have ever been kicked out of Québec; those who left did it on their own volition, mostly because they could not stomach not being in charge.
 

Jean that’s another piece of bullshit.. You couldn’t hammer Tony Kondaks out of a paper bag… You can’t hammer anyone.. You think you do … but you continue to fail at it miserably. The truth keeps biting you in the ass. Must hurt to sit down lol.

Typical answer of someone who’s totally clueless (which is a prime trait of rhodesians, who are culturally unable to understand other cultures).

Not without hitting his thumb first.. LOL.. then dropping the hammer and running for a band aid. Must be hard to feed himself with his foot down his throught most times.

Maybe we could find a common net meeting ground that won’t have jean or Marc lurking about

Jean is the one massively pro-101. I'm not. Not one bit. My beef was with you calling everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi. Nothing more. Your posts actually make perfect sense when you don't go on about Hitler. :)

Wouldn’t that be Tony Kondaks, by any chance?

I remember hammering him on USENET during the 1995 referendum…

Seems they "..Can't Answer That One.." For Quebeck either!

Therefore.. If they can't answer what it is they actually DO .. methinks our MP's & MNA's have some explaining to do!! Same goes for Heritage Canada... that's been raping us for multi-millions a YEAR for over 3 decades!!!

WTF are they doing with ALL that MONEY???? OUR MONEY!!

Time for some accountability - wouldn't you agree?

I've got some email addresses and more if you're interested. But I won't list anything on this site..
Maybe we could find a common net meeting ground that won't have jean or Marc lurking about.

Jean (our Troll), trips up over himself,
over and over…no wonder I only have to pick at random one or two points of his
rebuttals to remind him of his ignorance. Let's take the biotech companies (who
use the poor locals as guinea pigs for their drugs at 1000 a head to 'test', if
they haven't bought out a local doctor doing so on their own patients – Paul
Arcand explains this well) which he so loves to use:  why is it that half of
the 840 biotech companies, mostly MTL-based, only (let me switch languages for
the national post quote, used in a FR paper) n'ont en encaissé que 50% des
liquidités necessaries pour un année.  La situation sera dramatique si elles ne
reçoivent aucune aide (so, more than half are Bankrupt basically, and require a
huge bail out too). Cette industrie emploie directement et indirectement 103k
personnes. Six biotech québécoises on cessé leurs activitiés en 2008.  – effectivement
c'est une problématique énorme.

Jump the shark? The law that we are subject
to? Who's that then: you repetitively harass us for something unfounded (links
to CNT and law already given) – English speaking Quebeckers for us not wanting
to learn French…and think that because you are part of the majority (although
only the brutes, a small part of the actual majority) you can take advantage of
the apathy to hound us and spread your disgusting propaganda….look at how you
howl at us, eventhough this is about having OUR rights stripped from us (flip
back the problem and distract everyone).  Wow, I step away from the debate on QC
(fr-avant-tout) and you are still ignoring Canadian Criminal law for preaching
hatred against a minority that has had to leave their home province by the
hundreds of thousands since the militant movement started. Dégoutant, indeed.

Your sovt. élite squander 40BN of the
retirement money and they walk away without jail time while you play the
one-trick pony scapegoat…don't talk to us about Rule of Law (because here, when
it means stepping on a disdained minority, it is okay, or hitting up the Fed.
Liberals for a multi-million dollar Sponsorship Scandal deserves more attention
– HYPOCRISY à la Québécoise anyone?). It's okay to throw a never-ending bureaucratic
wall in front of the minority when justice needs to be heard? Vexatious
behaviour and even spitting on victims of what all will, without any shadow of a
doubt, come to understand soon enough because the only propaganda you'll hear
from me is the truth - an eye witness to it all. It's going to be fun to
validate this all with the new guard at the CDPQ now that mediation has a set
date in a few week.  They have an example of how NOT to do things, that is for
sure.

Just in BC, since your ignorance is
considerably astounding with respect to anything outside of the province….here is
a copy of BC tech magazine:

http://209.205.95.211/joomla/tech/images/stories/bctech08/BCTech2008_ebook.pdf

hmm, because Vancouver has the most hybrid
taxis in Canada, the largest fleet of electric busses, is preparing for the
next generation of hydrogen fuel cells thanks to Ballard – they're stuck in
this supposed RedNeckLand concept your little mind cannot diverge from.  And,
no, out West, we don't build progressive structures either: 
http://photos-d-4.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs106.snc1/4788_202200630316_904205316_7381275_3140578_n.jpg 
Vancouver's new convention centre has an entirely eco-friendly roof (garden):
http://www.vancouverconventioncentre.com/   (more proof that the one who cries
out the loudest about cluelessness is the most clueless of all – just
like the militant sovereigntists' idea of democracy, more of the 'what did I
lose' defence…duh, not sure 'bout that - credibility maybe?)  BC
certainly has its beefs with Ottawa also, because most successful provincial
parties, like liberal leader Campbell - think BC-first.

It comes down to this, that here, if you
cross one of the little-people types (go ahead and register, I won't delete
your comments – everyone else should see how much of a Chump you are too), no
matter how much more competency you have, not matter how good your French is,
the natural tendency is to play territorial school yard (maitre-chez nous
justification, which only leads to contempt) gang-like politics (e.g. in the
office place in Montreal). You are trying to attain a degree of influence that
is not deserved, and justify this as such by demanding supremacy of French due
to your fear of its loss ( moot, since it is for over 400 years) and going as
far to demand obedience from minorities, even when they are right technically,
legally, morally, and bilingual too…but still blocked from doing their job.

I don't care if on occasion I just have to
suck it up and not 'be right' I can wait , but when the degree is to the level
where it fundamentally affects all of our retirement monies, no matter what
side of the argument you are on…cannot be left – one day when all has been
validated, the real decision makers in the govt will bring back the balance –
ah, but wait, they already started. I will take my time and show how with many
examples, oops…heavy Christian background baggage I cannot shed easily, as the
meek shall inherit the earth – not the goons.

The commonwealth exists to this day because
it accepts change when it is necessary and luckily, since the Franco-Norman
invasion …there are the right people, who strive to set examples - even when it
means great personal sacrifice, close enough to key decision makers even if
they appear to have a great Temper, but diffuse this anger by repetitively
arguing 'from the heart' about the real issues.  I shall not be shutting up
anytime soon J

Westerner, we are a multi-nation state,
it's politics 101. En-Fr-FN are the pillars of this country. J'ai des amis comme Pollus ou Alexandre qui essai, avec moi
ensemble, de revenir vers les exemples tel que Baldwin et Lafontaine…mais les
dommages causés par ces brutes restent à niveler (level off to the extremists
they truly are, and the much diminished influence they truly have now). We should take care not to be side-tracked by sovt. goons who take
advantage of a situation to dissuade the ROC from learning the language of a founding
nation either. We have to think positively and remember the collaboration that
works…and the things from both linguistic sides that make Montreal great.

The point is that we have to handle those
hot potatoes properly, and someone has to take on this issue, b/c it is one of
the biggest Canada faces today (not an imperialist passion, just a
determination to improve an intolerable situation of double-standards that we
are supposed to suck-in by means of the brain-washed majority of QC steered by
Losership).  The Govt. is too boy-scout to deal with the issue, so I shall by
literature, awareness and by smacking down the (but funny that, how Charest is
doing – maybe he is listening to my e-mails, at least he thanked me for themJ ). There
must be a fix..and it begins by putting the goons in their place to get to
what's real – the discrimination (outcry of Sabia taking over the CDPQ). If QC
takes this step to admit it internally, and begin the process of reconciliation,
then the example will be set for the rest of Canada that the majority in the
province has woken up, and maybe we can progress as a Unified Country again.

After what had happened to me personally at
the CDPQ, I could have done like another family member (see 1918 the Maurice
Affair, Papers) and taken on the govt. publically, even to the point of parliament
almost throwing out the PM himself, but I am patient and will let the govt.
itself do it's job at it's own pace because I know that those who tried to
change the truth at the CDPQ have already been shown the door for the most
part.

Mon dieu, pour quoi pouvez-vous ca. Nous sommes tout les freres et soeurs en le monde. N'est pas?

"I know it’s hard to admit that life has given you a raw deal, but the fact is you guys have to work longer than us to pay for the bare necessities of life."

Oui et c'est incroyable que nous pay pour les necessites de vie pour toi aussi. Tres bien pour vous tous en Quebec et mal pour nous dans le ROC. Merci beaucoup pour ca, frere jean.

"So, let me get this straight: making immigrants speak english is okay, but making them speak french is bad?
Can you explain the, et… “logic” behind that???"

Pourquoi ne pas les laisser apprendre la langue qu'ils veulent, ou deux des langues officieles.
Car, vous sont les maudits bigots.

"you are anglo-saxon, and anglo-saxons are culturally incapable of understanding other cultures"

Bien sur Jean, selon, vous. Vous qui etes l'amour avec votre langue et culture que vous ne peut pas etre objectif sur les autres cultures.

"The Caisse plunged following anglo-saxon-by-proxy interference"

Encore une fois, vous detourner des veritable responsibilites a' d'autres. Mon dieu, Des francos fait jamais un erreur, selon vous.

Mais, vous etes tres marrant, M. Namair. Vous me faire rire avec votre sac de vent. WHOOOSHHHH

You get all that back plus the welfare on top. How does it feel to be on welfare “”frere Jean”" !!!

I am not your brother.

Of course you must not mind it which is a good measure of your character. What was it again..130 hour a year less work than the average Canadian. You must have fallen off the boat early in life!

I know it’s hard to admit that life has given you a raw deal, but the fact is you guys have to work longer than us to pay for the bare necessities of life.

The only thing you have is welfare. About Bombardier and the high tech sector. You want to get into the loan guarantees to Quebec business by Canada. (Bombardier etc etc) Lacky!

Jealous.

You might think so but no, actually it doesn’t. Pisses me off that companies in Canada have to pay for this because of your maudits langue that is only spoken in Quebec.

Poor little doggie. Blame the federal government for that.

You see, Jean, it doesn’t matter to me..if it pissed me off all I have to do is turn the box around. Just like the ROC can turn the box around on your piss assed province, if they wish.

Well, it seems they don’t. Oh well. Win some, lose most of them.

Not about the JOUAL Jean, just about the discrimination against minorities,

So, let me get this straight: making immigrants speak english is okay, but making them speak french is bad?
Can you explain the, et… “logic” behind that???

the same if there was any other form of discrimination. You see, out here, we are people who are not so bigotted as to have laws like 101.

Well, when you are an elephant, you don’t need protection against groundhogs. (And the fact that no one is peddling groundhog insurance to elephants is indicative that elephants are not suckers — a good point for them)…

101 is a bigotted law put in to protect something that doesnt need protection at the expense of a minority.

Oh? Which minority is being discriminated against? The tiny minority that has it’s media, it’s hospitals, it’s schools, it’s exclusive institutions??? The well-pampered minority????

Actually, I think more appropriate it is a law brought in as a vindictive tactic and a form of revenge against people you are afraid to admit are more successful than yourselves.

The fact that we have resisted all attempts at assimilation thrown at us for the last quarter millenium means that we do not consider you more successful than ourselves. But I do not expect you to understand that, you are anglo-saxon, and anglo-saxons are culturally incapable of understanding other cultures.

Who is not at the head of the Caisse Depot now that it has been uncovered the realities of how competent the former people were running things. More facts to destroy you weak racist arguments.

The Caisse plunged following anglo-saxon-by-proxy interference.

“Sneer. We feed ourselves.”
Yes with other peoples money…You are on welfare Jean…Come on now, just admit it as the figures don’t lie. What was it 8.5 B and more to the business sector that you conveniently reminded me about.

You are grasping at straws; the west has painted itself in a corner with it’s dirty oil monoculture.

Not my argument, I am sure Hugo will reply. Just my comment…you couldn’t win a fight with Shebbeare unless he became a mental quadrapalegic.

Shebbeare is just a rhodesian who is pissed that he cannot be 100% english in a 90% french place. Over you he has the advantage to be right on the spot, rather than 3000 miles away, but it seems that he cannot use it, as his powers of observations are dulled by his imperialistic culture.

You simply do not possess the IQ for that. Sorry Jean, you are a loser.

What do I lose?
 

What’s with the “poppycock” usage? Who is this guy anyway, Parizeau?

Digitus in oculo!*
* With apologies to Jacques Parizeau. (Said wearing a vest, right index finger raised, and the left in the vest’s watch pocket).

We then went on to discuss how that broke down. I've been into the actual figures (all round) for more than 25 years. Go back and see my prior posts. Have yet to be proven wrong, in spite of the Jean's etc.... screeching.. I'm way out of line.

You should have heard 'them' yell when I wrote about non franchones being the majority in Greater Montreal. All hell broke loose.. with denials etc.. But truth is truth.. facts are facts.. And as I used to tell my son.. "The truth always comes back to bite you in the ass."

You get all that back plus the welfare on top. How does it feel to be on welfare ""frere Jean"" !!! Of course you must not mind it which is a good measure of your character. What was it again..130 hour a year less work than the average Canadian. You must have fallen off the boat early in life!

"We pay 12 billion dollars in taxes to Canada. And we have the high-technology, while the west only have cows and oil."

The only thing you have is welfare. About Bombardier and the high tech sector. You want to get into the loan guarantees to Quebec business by Canada. (Bombardier etc etc) Lacky!

"Sure it does: the french on cereal boxes infuriate you guys."

You might think so but no, actually it doesn't. Pisses me off that companies in Canada have to pay for this because of your maudits langue that is only spoken in Quebec. You see, Jean, it doesn't matter to me..if it pissed me off all I have to do is turn the box around. Just like the ROC can turn the box around on your piss assed province, if they wish.

"Well, you DO give a shit; don’t you hear the big whines about law 101 that prevents the english from anglicizing the immigrants???"

Not about the JOUAL Jean, just about the discrimination against minorities, the same if there was any other form of discrimination. You see, out here, we are people who are not so bigotted as to have laws like 101. 101 is a bigotted law put in to protect something that doesnt need protection at the expense of a minority. Actually, I think more appropriate it is a law brought in as a vindictive tactic and a form of revenge against people you are afraid to admit are more successful than yourselves. Who is not at the head of the Caisse Depot now that it has been uncovered the realities of how competent the former people were running things. More facts to destroy you weak racist arguments.

"Sneer. We feed ourselves."

Yes with other peoples money...You are on welfare Jean...Come on now, just admit it as the figures don't lie. What was it 8.5 B and more to the business sector that you conveniently reminded me about.

"Do you really want me to register there so I can beat your arse on your own ground???"

Not my argument, I am sure Hugo will reply. Just my comment...you couldn't win a fight with Shebbeare unless he became a mental quadrapalegic. You simply do not possess the IQ for that. Sorry Jean, you are a loser.

The office of the language commissioner is totally useless in Quebec as they are subverted by the local unilingual french status in Quebec. Of course, they do nothing and I have brought this to their attention. Needless to say, when the potatoe is too hot, they either ignore the question or differ to another department as its not their responsibility. This is why I say the entire OLA is a collapsed pharce, the office and department should be shut down and the money spent elsewhere.

After all, they seem to go around in English Canada sticking their noses in everyones business but the allow laws as 101 to exist. What good do they serve.

I am still waiting for an answer to a question about the bilingual hiring quotas in the various regions of Canada. Strange, they say they can't answer that question. They know full well that when yo compare the quotas enforced in the federal civil serivce against the actual needs it is so out of sorts as to be ridiculous. They don't want people to know how much money they have wasted. There was an attempt to identify the costs and Chretein himself called it off. If the people dont know they wont care, if they are given the information...LOOK OUT.