Comments on: Longueuil dreams of more metro stations http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:36:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: john http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-77130 john Sat, 16 May 2009 04:56:13 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-77130 i think it should go as far as the saint hubert airport with a possible extension to promenades st bruno in the future this would end the need for outlying ares to bring their busses in to the downtown core i think it should go as far as the saint hubert airport with a possible extension to promenades st bruno in the future this would end the need for outlying ares to bring their busses in to the downtown core

]]> By: Mr. Robertson http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70947 Mr. Robertson Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:01:14 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70947 Longueuil is a lot more densely populated than either Laval or a good portion of Montreal Island. I think this extension is worth it. Longueuil is a lot more densely populated than either Laval or a good portion of Montreal Island. I think this extension is worth it.

]]> By: blork http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70895 blork Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:54:08 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70895 When I moved to Longueuil five years ago, that yellow line extension ideal was already pretty shopworn. It would be innovative for the Mtl Metro in that it would run above ground. Ideally, people would NOT have to change trains to get into the yellow line proper. But I'm not holding my breath. It's all just talk and even if they got the green light now it wouldn't open for another five years. On the bright side, it means I would once again be walking distance to a Metro station, which would be awesome! When I moved to Longueuil five years ago, that yellow line extension ideal was already pretty shopworn. It would be innovative for the Mtl Metro in that it would run above ground. Ideally, people would NOT have to change trains to get into the yellow line proper.

But I'm not holding my breath. It's all just talk and even if they got the green light now it wouldn't open for another five years. On the bright side, it means I would once again be walking distance to a Metro station, which would be awesome!

]]> By: newurbanshapes http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70753 newurbanshapes Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:52:58 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70753 Good call, though it doesn't seem to have paid off for the PQ, does it? haha http://www.cbc.ca/news/quebecvotes2008/map/2008/#63 On the other hand, they were the only ones willing to build metro extensions - bad news for metro fans. A cost-benefit analysis could say anything. Are the benefits of cleaner air taken into account? Undeveloped land in distant suburbs? Energy efficiency? Trade balances? Marginally improved geo-political stability? Probably not. They're more likely along the lines of "a bus will move the same 50 people around at half the capital cost and twice the operating cost and reduce traffic by X." Good call, though it doesn't seem to have paid off for the PQ, does it? haha

http://www.cbc.ca/news/quebecvotes2008/map/2008/#63

On the other hand, they were the only ones willing to build metro extensions - bad news for metro fans.

A cost-benefit analysis could say anything. Are the benefits of cleaner air taken into account? Undeveloped land in distant suburbs? Energy efficiency? Trade balances? Marginally improved geo-political stability? Probably not. They're more likely along the lines of "a bus will move the same 50 people around at half the capital cost and twice the operating cost and reduce traffic by X."

]]> By: steve81 http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70740 steve81 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:49:02 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70740 I dream of extending the yellow line too, but in the other direction (to the Parc station): http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&view=map&msa=0&msid=107906190992033194946.000457245a8ebb845e689&ll=45.521541,-73.595026&spn=0.08804,0.154495&t=p&z=13&lci=transit I dream of extending the yellow line too, but in the other direction (to the Parc station):

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&view=map&msa=0&msid=107906190992033194946.000457245a8ebb845e689&ll=45.521541,-73.595026&spn=0.08804,0.154495&t=p&z=13&lci=transit

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70739 Fagstein Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:39:37 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70739 I wouldn't mind a bit more cost-benefit analyses and a bit less "because it would be cool". I think the Laval metro will eventually prove worth it, but the fact that we had an extension to Laval before Anjou has more to do with Laval ridings being more valuable politically than St. Michel ridings. I wouldn't mind a bit more cost-benefit analyses and a bit less "because it would be cool". I think the Laval metro will eventually prove worth it, but the fact that we had an extension to Laval before Anjou has more to do with Laval ridings being more valuable politically than St. Michel ridings.

]]> By: newurbanshapes http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70738 newurbanshapes Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:13:52 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70738 This project's been tossed around for a while in different versions, but metro construction gets bad press because people get sticker shock and don't actually bother asking how it helps the local economy, environment, traffic and all that after it's built. http://www.ledevoir.com/2004/09/21/64249.html Remember that it took a wacky elected official - Jean Drapeau - to get the thing built in the first place. Would removing elected officials make transport a slave to narrow cost-benefit analyses? This project's been tossed around for a while in different versions, but metro construction gets bad press because people get sticker shock and don't actually bother asking how it helps the local economy, environment, traffic and all that after it's built.

http://www.ledevoir.com/2004/09/21/64249.html

Remember that it took a wacky elected official - Jean Drapeau - to get the thing built in the first place. Would removing elected officials make transport a slave to narrow cost-benefit analyses?

]]> By: Alex T. http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/04/07/longueuil-wants-metro-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-70710 Alex T. Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:22:38 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=4952#comment-70710 I wouldn't hold my breath. With the time / money it took to get the metro to Laval we'll be lucky if we can go beyond LUDS before 2030! I wouldn't hold my breath. With the time / money it took to get the metro to Laval we'll be lucky if we can go beyond LUDS before 2030!

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