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		<title>By: ?????? ??????????</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-94843</link>
		<dc:creator>?????? ??????????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulation people!

You are going to became tne Nazi nation :-)

Et moi... Moi, je vais quitter votre maudite pays fasciste dans 11 mois! Yahoo!</description>
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<p>You are going to became tne Nazi nation :-)</p>
<p>Et moi... Moi, je vais quitter votre maudite pays fasciste dans 11 mois! Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: jame</title>
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		<dc:creator>jame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i ALWAYS CALLED COPS OFFFICERS AND LOOKED UP TO THEM ,BUT THAT HAS CHANGED ,PORK IS CONTAMINATED AND MAKES PEOPLE SICK EVERY NOW AND THEN. tHEY ASKED FOR THAT NAME !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i ALWAYS CALLED COPS OFFFICERS AND LOOKED UP TO THEM ,BUT THAT HAS CHANGED ,PORK IS CONTAMINATED AND MAKES PEOPLE SICK EVERY NOW AND THEN. tHEY ASKED FOR THAT NAME !</p>
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		<title>By: Michel K</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-78555</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 04:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad it wasn&#039;t an STM security officer. Then she could have just run away. Once you&#039;re off the property, they have no jurisdiction over you.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-78103</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I want you to think about how you&#039;d like being treated the way Laval police treated this woman.  Maybe for just one day.  First, suppose you were fined every time you committed a driving infraction.  Every single time.  Then, let&#039;s fine you for littering, spitting, jaywalking, and of course, not availing yourself of safety devices such as handrails.  Not just escalator handrails, Steve-- I mean all handrails, including stairs, shower grab bars, and elevators.  Hope you&#039;ve never downloaded music- those fines are stiff!  Nor should you talk on the phone or tune the radio while driving, for fear of a fine.  Nor read the paper while walking.  Smoking is also dangerous, much more so than not using handrails, so let&#039;s fine you if you smoke, too.  Ditto bicycling without front &amp; rear lights, reflectors, bright clothing, a bell, and a helmet.  I&#039;ll bet you&#039;d be refusing ID and mouthing off to the cops in your face by 10am on such a day!  (I would be in armed rebellion by 0700.)  You seem to think Bela should have done as she was told.  If you really think so, you&#039;ll have to admit that you should do as you&#039;re told also.  Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I want you to think about how you'd like being treated the way Laval police treated this woman.  Maybe for just one day.  First, suppose you were fined every time you committed a driving infraction.  Every single time.  Then, let's fine you for littering, spitting, jaywalking, and of course, not availing yourself of safety devices such as handrails.  Not just escalator handrails, Steve-- I mean all handrails, including stairs, shower grab bars, and elevators.  Hope you've never downloaded music- those fines are stiff!  Nor should you talk on the phone or tune the radio while driving, for fear of a fine.  Nor read the paper while walking.  Smoking is also dangerous, much more so than not using handrails, so let's fine you if you smoke, too.  Ditto bicycling without front &amp; rear lights, reflectors, bright clothing, a bell, and a helmet.  I'll bet you'd be refusing ID and mouthing off to the cops in your face by 10am on such a day!  (I would be in armed rebellion by 0700.)  You seem to think Bela should have done as she was told.  If you really think so, you'll have to admit that you should do as you're told also.  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: steve81</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer.&quot;

Even if it was an STM security officer, you still have to provide identification if you are asked. See chapter VI and VII of An Act respecting Public transit authorities:
http://www.canlii.org/en/qc/laws/stat/rsq-c-s-30.01/latest/rsq-c-s-30.01.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer."</p>
<p>Even if it was an STM security officer, you still have to provide identification if you are asked. See chapter VI and VII of An Act respecting Public transit authorities:<br />
<a href="http://www.canlii.org/en/qc/laws/stat/rsq-c-s-30.01/latest/rsq-c-s-30.01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.canlii.org/en/qc/laws/stat/rsq-c-s-30.01/latest/rsq-c-s-30.01.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein &#187; About those escalator pictograms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fagstein &#187; About those escalator pictograms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an escalator handrail and having the gall to protest when they demanded she do so. This action caused outrage that is still giving Patrick Lagacé column [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an escalator handrail and having the gall to protest when they demanded she do so. This action caused outrage that is still giving Patrick Lagacé column [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; 
&lt;em&gt;OK I have a few problems with this issue:
1) Why is it a by-law to hold the handrail? An escalator is just like a staircase, and hence doesn&#8217;t need the excessive by-law. No one has never been hurt on an escalator by not holding the handrail unless they were goffing off.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#8217;s just a standard &#8220;cover your arse&#8221; procedure, so in the event of a lawsuit, the defendant can point out &#8221;look, I plastered warnings all over the place, so it&#8217;s their damn fault if they didn&#8217;t heed the warning&#8221;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Transit security officers &lt;strong&gt;DO&lt;/strong&gt; have the standing of a peace officer (police officer), but solely on transit property and solely with regards to transit bylaws.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;3) Why doesn&#8217;t these security officers deal with all the drug-dealing and pickpocketing going on at Berri-UQAM every day?&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because it&#8217;s much easier to pick on ex-soviet citizens who talk back to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;??????? ??????????????? ????????????&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;4) Assualting a police officer is a crime. Talking back to one isn&#8217;t. Police were just on a power trip.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;b&#339;ufs&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; acted improperly by not telling the girl why she was about to be given a ticket, as required in the canadian charter of rights, so they brought the whole situation upon themselves.</description>
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<em>OK I have a few problems with this issue:<br />
1) Why is it a by-law to hold the handrail? An escalator is just like a staircase, and hence doesn&rsquo;t need the excessive by-law. No one has never been hurt on an escalator by not holding the handrail unless they were goffing off.</em>
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<p>It&rsquo;s just a standard &ldquo;cover your arse&rdquo; procedure, so in the event of a lawsuit, the defendant can point out &rdquo;look, I plastered warnings all over the place, so it&rsquo;s their damn fault if they didn&rsquo;t heed the warning&rdquo;.</p>
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<em>2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer.</em>
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<p>Transit security officers <strong>DO</strong> have the standing of a peace officer (police officer), but solely on transit property and solely with regards to transit bylaws.</p>
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<em>3) Why doesn&rsquo;t these security officers deal with all the drug-dealing and pickpocketing going on at Berri-UQAM every day?</em>
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<p>Because it&rsquo;s much easier to pick on ex-soviet citizens who talk back to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB" rel="nofollow">??????? ??????????????? ????????????</a>.</p>
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<em>4) Assualting a police officer is a crime. Talking back to one isn&rsquo;t. Police were just on a power trip.</em>
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<p>The <em><strong>b&oelig;ufs</strong></em> acted improperly by not telling the girl why she was about to be given a ticket, as required in the canadian charter of rights, so they brought the whole situation upon themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77918</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wasn&#039;t an STM security officer, it was Laval police.

The obstruction charge wasn&#039;t for talking back to police. It was for refusing to follow the orders of an officer and for refusing to provide identification (which necessitated an arrest - and handcuffs - so they could search her for ID).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wasn't an STM security officer, it was Laval police.</p>
<p>The obstruction charge wasn't for talking back to police. It was for refusing to follow the orders of an officer and for refusing to provide identification (which necessitated an arrest - and handcuffs - so they could search her for ID).</p>
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		<title>By: Michel K</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77902</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I have a few problems with this issue:

1) Why is it a by-law to hold the handrail? An escalator is just like a staircase, and hence doesn&#039;t need the excessive by-law. No one has never been hurt on an escalator by not holding the handrail unless they were goffing off.

2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer.

3) Why doesn&#039;t these security officers deal with all the drug-dealing and pickpocketing going on at Berri-UQAM every day?

4) Assualting a police officer is a crime. Talking back to one isn&#039;t. Police were just on a power trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I have a few problems with this issue:</p>
<p>1) Why is it a by-law to hold the handrail? An escalator is just like a staircase, and hence doesn't need the excessive by-law. No one has never been hurt on an escalator by not holding the handrail unless they were goffing off.</p>
<p>2) Last time I checked, an STM security officer is not a police officer and hence, there is no obligation to provide identification, except to a police officer.</p>
<p>3) Why doesn't these security officers deal with all the drug-dealing and pickpocketing going on at Berri-UQAM every day?</p>
<p>4) Assualting a police officer is a crime. Talking back to one isn't. Police were just on a power trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Because, Jean, it was not an unreasonable order. Holding a handrail or furnishing a piece of ID when a cop observes you &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;doing something against the law (in this case talking back to the police and being an asshole about it)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! &lt;strong&gt;&#8220;Talking back to the police&#8221; is against the law???&lt;/strong&gt;
Against which law? The &#8220;law&#8221; the cop made on the spot? Excuse me, but the only one body who can make laws here are the parliaments and city halls, and then within their own range of competence, and then they are restrcted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#libertes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. Now, where do you see that one shall not &#8220;talk back to the police&#8221;? (I won&#8217;t hold my breath). They may try to have city hall outlaw it, but they haven&#8217;t done so yet.
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&lt;em&gt;is not the same as the cops ordering you to pull down your pants and dance for them. She may not have agreed with holding the handrail, but it would have saved her lots of trouble. Never ever do you assume that police, border guards, security agents, etc have a sense of humor on the job.&lt;/em&gt;
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Of course not. They are specially selected amongst those who are the dimmest witted possible and have their craniums specially drilled to drain any sense of humour they might have had.
* * *
You seem to be going a good job shilling for the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;b&#339;ufs&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&#8230; Here, we want full disclosure: are you a &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;boeuf &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;or in anyway involved with &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;b&#339;ufs&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; to back them like that?</description>
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<em>Because, Jean, it was not an unreasonable order. Holding a handrail or furnishing a piece of ID when a cop observes you </em><strong><em>doing something against the law (in this case talking back to the police and being an asshole about it)</em></strong>
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<p>Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! <strong>&ldquo;Talking back to the police&rdquo; is against the law???</strong><br />
Against which law? The &ldquo;law&rdquo; the cop made on the spot? Excuse me, but the only one body who can make laws here are the parliaments and city halls, and then within their own range of competence, and then they are restrcted by <a href="http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#libertes" rel="nofollow">this</a>. Now, where do you see that one shall not &ldquo;talk back to the police&rdquo;? (I won&rsquo;t hold my breath). They may try to have city hall outlaw it, but they haven&rsquo;t done so yet.</p>
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<em>is not the same as the cops ordering you to pull down your pants and dance for them. She may not have agreed with holding the handrail, but it would have saved her lots of trouble. Never ever do you assume that police, border guards, security agents, etc have a sense of humor on the job.</em>
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<p>Of course not. They are specially selected amongst those who are the dimmest witted possible and have their craniums specially drilled to drain any sense of humour they might have had.<br />
* * *<br />
You seem to be going a good job shilling for the <em><strong>b&oelig;ufs</strong></em>&hellip; Here, we want full disclosure: are you a <em><strong>boeuf </strong></em>or in anyway involved with <em><strong>b&oelig;ufs</strong></em> to back them like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tux: I&#039;ve only commented about this issue on this blog.  And I&#039;m not a cop.  OK?</description>
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		<title>By: Tux</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77839</link>
		<dc:creator>Tux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know who this Marc is but he&#039;s making the rounds on the internet defending the cops in this case. I think he might be one of them.

If you ask me, the cops were clearly in the wrong, and we should be investigating why exactly they do boneheaded things like this so often. (See also: Tazing people to death) Also, I think it&#039;s good that the case got some publicity. The more public shaming the cops receive, the better. Then maybe they&#039;ll think twice before they issue a ticket or make charges just to retaliate against someone they didn&#039;t feel was respectful enough.

Hardly anyone in the metro holds the handrail. We don&#039;t, and shouldn&#039;t, get tickets for not doing so. This woman was clearly unfairly singled out. The cops should mind their own business and stick to actual crimes that do actual harm. Where were they when that lady in her 60s got mugged at a bus stop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know who this Marc is but he's making the rounds on the internet defending the cops in this case. I think he might be one of them.</p>
<p>If you ask me, the cops were clearly in the wrong, and we should be investigating why exactly they do boneheaded things like this so often. (See also: Tazing people to death) Also, I think it's good that the case got some publicity. The more public shaming the cops receive, the better. Then maybe they'll think twice before they issue a ticket or make charges just to retaliate against someone they didn't feel was respectful enough.</p>
<p>Hardly anyone in the metro holds the handrail. We don't, and shouldn't, get tickets for not doing so. This woman was clearly unfairly singled out. The cops should mind their own business and stick to actual crimes that do actual harm. Where were they when that lady in her 60s got mugged at a bus stop?</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Et évidemment, la version de la police est que la police est sans reproches, alors qu’il est clair qu’ils ont décidé de taper sur la femme en refusant de lui dire pour quelle raison ils l’ont arrêtée afin de la provoquer pour qu’elle refuse de s’identifier pour lui coller une amende pour “obstruction”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Et évidemment, la version de la police est que la police est sans reproches, alors qu’il est clair qu’ils ont décidé de taper sur la femme en refusant de lui dire pour quelle raison ils l’ont arrêtée afin de la provoquer pour qu’elle refuse de s’identifier pour lui coller une amende pour “obstruction”.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77820</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because, Jean, it was not an unreasonable order.  Holding a handrail or furnishing a piece of ID when a cop observes you doing something against the law (in this case talking back to the police and being an asshole about it) is not the same as the cops ordering you to pull down your pants and dance for them.  She may not have agreed with holding the handrail, but it would have saved her lots of trouble.  Never ever do you assume that police, border guards, security agents, etc have a sense of humor on the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, Jean, it was not an unreasonable order.  Holding a handrail or furnishing a piece of ID when a cop observes you doing something against the law (in this case talking back to the police and being an asshole about it) is not the same as the cops ordering you to pull down your pants and dance for them.  She may not have agreed with holding the handrail, but it would have saved her lots of trouble.  Never ever do you assume that police, border guards, security agents, etc have a sense of humor on the job.</p>
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		<title>By: steve81</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On peut entendre les deux versions (la dame et la police de Laval) dans cet extrait de l’émission de Paul Arcand :

http://www.985fm.ca/chmp/audio/audioplayer.php?url=http://mediacorus.corusquebec.com/webcorus/audio/content_Audio/200631.mp3

Évidemment, les journaux ont seulement rapportés la version de la dame…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On peut entendre les deux versions (la dame et la police de Laval) dans cet extrait de l’émission de Paul Arcand :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.985fm.ca/chmp/audio/audioplayer.php?url=http://mediacorus.corusquebec.com/webcorus/audio/content_Audio/200631.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.985fm.ca/chmp/audio/audioplayer.php?url=http://mediacorus.corusquebec.com/webcorus/audio/content_Audio/200631.mp3</a></p>
<p>Évidemment, les journaux ont seulement rapportés la version de la dame…</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;em&gt;It&#8217;s less about her holding the handrail and more about her absolute contempt for a figure of authority.  &lt;/em&gt;
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And, pray tell, what is wrong with expressing contempt of a figure of authority?</description>
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<em>It&rsquo;s less about her holding the handrail and more about her absolute contempt for a figure of authority.  </em>
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<p>And, pray tell, what is wrong with expressing contempt of a figure of authority?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77737</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s less about her holding the handrail and more about her absolute contempt for a figure of authority.  Here we have a woman who disobeyed a direct order by the police, responding to them in a sarcastic way.  She could have held the handrail when asked to and we would be talking about other things.

Her excuse that she was fumbling for her bus pass is absolute nonsense - she could have done that with much greater ease once off the escalator.  Her other excuse about catching germs was also bogus - has she not heard of those little pocket-sized things of Purell?  Face it: when using the Metro, you&#039;re going to have to touch things.

I briefly heard her on the radio today making comments about the East Bloc.  For her to make those comparisons is ridiculous and only belittles the suffering people experienced during that period in that part of the world.

This woman claims she&#039;s the victim.  On that, she&#039;s correct.  She&#039;s the victim of her own stupidity and got what she deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's less about her holding the handrail and more about her absolute contempt for a figure of authority.  Here we have a woman who disobeyed a direct order by the police, responding to them in a sarcastic way.  She could have held the handrail when asked to and we would be talking about other things.</p>
<p>Her excuse that she was fumbling for her bus pass is absolute nonsense - she could have done that with much greater ease once off the escalator.  Her other excuse about catching germs was also bogus - has she not heard of those little pocket-sized things of Purell?  Face it: when using the Metro, you're going to have to touch things.</p>
<p>I briefly heard her on the radio today making comments about the East Bloc.  For her to make those comparisons is ridiculous and only belittles the suffering people experienced during that period in that part of the world.</p>
<p>This woman claims she's the victim.  On that, she's correct.  She's the victim of her own stupidity and got what she deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>En effet, selon les normes de signalisation routière, les informations sont présentées en fond jaune (comme les vitesses suggérées pour les rampes d’autoroute), les interdictions avec un cercle rouge barré et les obligations avec un cercle vert.

Donc, il est fortement suggéré de tenir la rampe, et non pas obligatoire de le faire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>En effet, selon les normes de signalisation routière, les informations sont présentées en fond jaune (comme les vitesses suggérées pour les rampes d’autoroute), les interdictions avec un cercle rouge barré et les obligations avec un cercle vert.</p>
<p>Donc, il est fortement suggéré de tenir la rampe, et non pas obligatoire de le faire.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE ID</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77706</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVE ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish the police would be where the real problems are instead of harassing people doing harmless activities.</description>
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		<title>By: steve81</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/18/holding-the-handrail-of-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-77691</link>
		<dc:creator>steve81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I thought about this again and she probably can win this by arguing that holding the ramp is a security recommendation, not an obligation. The sign has a yellow background and the circle around the hand on the ramp is black (not green). The only thing prohibited is strollers (red circle with a diagonal line) and it does say &quot;Réservé aux personnes&quot;, so persons only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I thought about this again and she probably can win this by arguing that holding the ramp is a security recommendation, not an obligation. The sign has a yellow background and the circle around the hand on the ramp is black (not green). The only thing prohibited is strollers (red circle with a diagonal line) and it does say "Réservé aux personnes", so persons only.</p>
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