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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-90256</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Toronto and visited Montreal on the weekend of August 8th.

I rented the Bixi, and was off on a bike within minutes..  I didn&#039;t have to read the agreement,  I just clicked ok.. printed the ticket (my memory isn&#039;t that good), and was off..

Nothing could be easier, more intuitive, or more simple..  It just works.  I&#039;m impressed..  Except it cost us $15 to rent three bikes where a cab would have cost $10..  however, it was FUN!!  

I hope Toronto gets these as well..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm from Toronto and visited Montreal on the weekend of August 8th.</p>
<p>I rented the Bixi, and was off on a bike within minutes..  I didn't have to read the agreement,  I just clicked ok.. printed the ticket (my memory isn't that good), and was off..</p>
<p>Nothing could be easier, more intuitive, or more simple..  It just works.  I'm impressed..  Except it cost us $15 to rent three bikes where a cab would have cost $10..  however, it was FUN!!  </p>
<p>I hope Toronto gets these as well..</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-87625</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two charges: the subscription charge and the usage charge. Subscription is $5 for 24 hours, and also available by month or by year. Usage is free for the first 30 minutes, and then goes up from there. So if you don&#039;t have a subscription, it&#039;s $5 a day, and you can use the bikes as much as you want, but only 30 minutes at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two charges: the subscription charge and the usage charge. Subscription is $5 for 24 hours, and also available by month or by year. Usage is free for the first 30 minutes, and then goes up from there. So if you don't have a subscription, it's $5 a day, and you can use the bikes as much as you want, but only 30 minutes at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: davidson</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-87586</link>
		<dc:creator>davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone clarify the payment charges more clearly??? i thought that the first 30 minutes were free...
so, for example, i could go to and from work on a bixi, as long as it was under 30 mins. my girlfriend got charged $5.00 each time we used one under 30 mins, so whats the deal really with the charges???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can anyone clarify the payment charges more clearly??? i thought that the first 30 minutes were free...<br />
so, for example, i could go to and from work on a bixi, as long as it was under 30 mins. my girlfriend got charged $5.00 each time we used one under 30 mins, so whats the deal really with the charges???</p>
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		<title>By: glaframb</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-87245</link>
		<dc:creator>glaframb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, J they will be no Bixi this winter in the fall they will remove the bixi one by one and put it back next spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, J they will be no Bixi this winter in the fall they will remove the bixi one by one and put it back next spring.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-87166</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seemed like a good idea, but the bikes do not &quot;dock&quot; back into thier stations (3 out of 4 did not work and we were stuck waiting for a technician). BUT more importantly: they charged three of us more than $200 for an hour - each of us have to contest it with our credit card company. rip off and pain in the ass - DO NOT USE BIXI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seemed like a good idea, but the bikes do not "dock" back into thier stations (3 out of 4 did not work and we were stuck waiting for a technician). BUT more importantly: they charged three of us more than $200 for an hour - each of us have to contest it with our credit card company. rip off and pain in the ass - DO NOT USE BIXI</p>
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		<title>By: Z1antonio</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-84366</link>
		<dc:creator>Z1antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A student cannot afford the Bixi.
If you opt for a 24 hours access you pay 5.00$ (you did not use the bike yet).
Take it for 1h30min and you will be charged 4.50$ (0.00$ first 30min + 1.50$ next 30min + 3.00$ next 30min).
Your total bill will be 9.50$ for 1h30min.
Take it for 2 hours and you will end up paying 15.50$. (5.00$ 24h access+0.00$ first 30min + 1.50$ next 30min + 3.00$ next 30min+6.00$ next 30min).
2h30min = 21.50$
3h00min = 27.50$....
This is a ripoff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A student cannot afford the Bixi.<br />
If you opt for a 24 hours access you pay 5.00$ (you did not use the bike yet).<br />
Take it for 1h30min and you will be charged 4.50$ (0.00$ first 30min + 1.50$ next 30min + 3.00$ next 30min).<br />
Your total bill will be 9.50$ for 1h30min.<br />
Take it for 2 hours and you will end up paying 15.50$. (5.00$ 24h access+0.00$ first 30min + 1.50$ next 30min + 3.00$ next 30min+6.00$ next 30min).<br />
2h30min = 21.50$<br />
3h00min = 27.50$....<br />
This is a ripoff...</p>
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		<title>By: SMS</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-82367</link>
		<dc:creator>SMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried it for the first time today from Dorchester Square to Gauchetiere/University. The concept is good!</description>
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		<title>By: Alana</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-82186</link>
		<dc:creator>Alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a bixi subscription after trying it out on a few one-day passes. So far, so good! There are certainly a couple of problems: mostly that a lot of the racks have been full when I&#039;ve tried to return the bikes. but I like the concept enough that I am more than willing to put up with this, with the hope that they will work out the kinks. Go bixi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a bixi subscription after trying it out on a few one-day passes. So far, so good! There are certainly a couple of problems: mostly that a lot of the racks have been full when I've tried to return the bikes. but I like the concept enough that I am more than willing to put up with this, with the hope that they will work out the kinks. Go bixi!</p>
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		<title>By: Montreal&#8217;s Bixi Bikes &#8212; Khosrow is Dreaming</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-80596</link>
		<dc:creator>Montreal&#8217;s Bixi Bikes &#8212; Khosrow is Dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tried out the Bixi bike rental system last weekend. Many people have already written about them so I thought I would add my cents as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mare</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-80521</link>
		<dc:creator>mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she had read the 50 pages of instructions she would have known what to do.

If the station is full, you have to swipe your credit card again, and then you get 15 minutes extra and supposedly instructions to nearby stations that aren&#039;t full. That last feature might not work yet, but is advertised on the Bixi website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she had read the 50 pages of instructions she would have known what to do.</p>
<p>If the station is full, you have to swipe your credit card again, and then you get 15 minutes extra and supposedly instructions to nearby stations that aren't full. That last feature might not work yet, but is advertised on the Bixi website.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-80503</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested in the BIXI - however there are two problems - one I&#039;m not going to carry a bike helmet with me everywhere I go - in the event that I might want to rent one - an I&#039;m sure as hell not riding a bike in this city without one - the drivers here are nuts!
Second problem is - Id be concerned that there won&#039;t be enough spaces to drop the bike off at my destination. And twice now the station is full and I&#039;ve seen people upset because there is no place to drop off the bike. Last night a girl was in tears because she was late for a dinner party and this was the third station she had tried that was full.

What&#039;s the point of using teh system if you are going to end up 3 kilometers away from where you wanted to be? and how are you supposed to know where the other stations are?

I hope this isn&#039;t going to be another hair brain scheme that was put into affect without someone thinking about this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in the BIXI - however there are two problems - one I'm not going to carry a bike helmet with me everywhere I go - in the event that I might want to rent one - an I'm sure as hell not riding a bike in this city without one - the drivers here are nuts!<br />
Second problem is - Id be concerned that there won't be enough spaces to drop the bike off at my destination. And twice now the station is full and I've seen people upset because there is no place to drop off the bike. Last night a girl was in tears because she was late for a dinner party and this was the third station she had tried that was full.</p>
<p>What's the point of using teh system if you are going to end up 3 kilometers away from where you wanted to be? and how are you supposed to know where the other stations are?</p>
<p>I hope this isn't going to be another hair brain scheme that was put into affect without someone thinking about this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79888</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tried a Bixi last night after strolling around the St. Lawrence street fair.  I had no problems getting/returning the bike.  Two sour points: the steering is way too lose, and the seat is hard like a rock.  My ass was numb for about 15 minutes after being done with it.  Another thing these bikes really need, especially for downtown riding - a mirror!  Needs improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried a Bixi last night after strolling around the St. Lawrence street fair.  I had no problems getting/returning the bike.  Two sour points: the steering is way too lose, and the seat is hard like a rock.  My ass was numb for about 15 minutes after being done with it.  Another thing these bikes really need, especially for downtown riding - a mirror!  Needs improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79876</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mare may be right: you need more spaces than bikes. Users will find during off-peak periods that they cannot return bikes, even after trying multiple stations.

Admittedly, this will not be a problem for the bulk of users, since when most most people are renting,  spaces will be free. But it&#039;s another impediment to people depending on this as a regular way to get around.

I think the issue may be start-up cost: those stands look expensive. But I&#039;m guessing that adding extra slots will be something that&#039;s looked at in the coming years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mare may be right: you need more spaces than bikes. Users will find during off-peak periods that they cannot return bikes, even after trying multiple stations.</p>
<p>Admittedly, this will not be a problem for the bulk of users, since when most most people are renting,  spaces will be free. But it's another impediment to people depending on this as a regular way to get around.</p>
<p>I think the issue may be start-up cost: those stands look expensive. But I'm guessing that adding extra slots will be something that's looked at in the coming years.</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79843</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 09:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A perhaps underanticipated audience for the Bixi is the drunk-on-weekends kids of rue St-Laurent. My friend just spotted a crowd of doods tipsily charging their cards and drunk bixiing up and down Prince-Arthur (several grave crimes committed simultaneously!). What happens when these kids forget to bring the bikes back - just crashing into their front gates, vomiting, and going straight to bed? I expect there will be a number of &#039;unreturned&#039; fees charged this first season. 

So maybe they can install a breathalyzer on the check-out machine? I&#039;m not sure I want the usual stumble-home set to easily obtain extra KPHs for their trips home. They&#039;re trouble enough without the wheels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A perhaps underanticipated audience for the Bixi is the drunk-on-weekends kids of rue St-Laurent. My friend just spotted a crowd of doods tipsily charging their cards and drunk bixiing up and down Prince-Arthur (several grave crimes committed simultaneously!). What happens when these kids forget to bring the bikes back - just crashing into their front gates, vomiting, and going straight to bed? I expect there will be a number of 'unreturned' fees charged this first season. </p>
<p>So maybe they can install a breathalyzer on the check-out machine? I'm not sure I want the usual stumble-home set to easily obtain extra KPHs for their trips home. They're trouble enough without the wheels.</p>
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		<title>By: mare</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79804</link>
		<dc:creator>mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 05:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I tried Bixi (and this Google maps hack pointed out above) out today. I went to Jean Talon Market. According to the map, there should have been 7 free spots at the Henri-Julien/Jean Talon stand. None. Next stand, 300 metres further away on Chateaubriand/Belanger. According to map, 5 free spots. In reality, none. Finally we found one free spot on the Breboeuf/Jean-Talon stand, about a kilometre from our destination. We changed bikes (our time was up) and went back home.

If the information on the Bixi website is not correct and up-to-date, you can’t plan a trip. Without my iPhone, I wouldn’t even have known the locations of the “nearby” stations. Bixi is nice, but you shouldn’t want to use it to go to a destination, like the Jean Talon market, or a cinema downtown or things like that. The bike/stand ratio is just not good, there should be three times more parking spaces than bikes. On the Bixi website they talk about 300 bikes and 300 station. Most stations don&#039;t even have 10 places, so when nobody uses a bixi, like at night, all bikes should be parked and everybody should be put them very spread out over the network. Ain&#039;t gonna happen.

And those instructions: 50 pages of legalese interspersed with instructions is just a big riot. Quebec user interface designers are either terrible, or those things are designed by the son of the director who is studying graphic design at a Cegep and so is very qualified. The same goes for the STM Opus terminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I tried Bixi (and this Google maps hack pointed out above) out today. I went to Jean Talon Market. According to the map, there should have been 7 free spots at the Henri-Julien/Jean Talon stand. None. Next stand, 300 metres further away on Chateaubriand/Belanger. According to map, 5 free spots. In reality, none. Finally we found one free spot on the Breboeuf/Jean-Talon stand, about a kilometre from our destination. We changed bikes (our time was up) and went back home.</p>
<p>If the information on the Bixi website is not correct and up-to-date, you can’t plan a trip. Without my iPhone, I wouldn’t even have known the locations of the “nearby” stations. Bixi is nice, but you shouldn’t want to use it to go to a destination, like the Jean Talon market, or a cinema downtown or things like that. The bike/stand ratio is just not good, there should be three times more parking spaces than bikes. On the Bixi website they talk about 300 bikes and 300 station. Most stations don't even have 10 places, so when nobody uses a bixi, like at night, all bikes should be parked and everybody should be put them very spread out over the network. Ain't gonna happen.</p>
<p>And those instructions: 50 pages of legalese interspersed with instructions is just a big riot. Quebec user interface designers are either terrible, or those things are designed by the son of the director who is studying graphic design at a Cegep and so is very qualified. The same goes for the STM Opus terminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79792</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need a credit card... But it&#039;s simpler to register online and get the &quot;bixi-key&quot; mailed to you. I guess that doing that is the best option for the under-18 crowd. The key makes the system quite seamless, it&#039;s clear the credit card bit is really a fallback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need a credit card... But it's simpler to register online and get the "bixi-key" mailed to you. I guess that doing that is the best option for the under-18 crowd. The key makes the system quite seamless, it's clear the credit card bit is really a fallback.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79754</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are incredibly curious about this.

I took out bikes three times today. Twice strangers on the street stopped to ask me how to work it, like I was the expert (a joke in itself). The third time a colleague in a cafe pumped me for info on how it works.

I think it&#039;s a bit of a fad right now. I don&#039;t know that the Bixi system will be quite as popular after the novelty wears off, but I suppose you can say that about just about everything.

I&#039;ll likely never use it again. At 6&#039;4&quot; these bikes are just too small for me, even with the seat post fully extended. My knees were sore after using it. And they&#039;re heavy beasts, with fat tires. Also, it&#039;s been so long since I rode a three-speed  I forgot how nice it was to have 21.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are incredibly curious about this.</p>
<p>I took out bikes three times today. Twice strangers on the street stopped to ask me how to work it, like I was the expert (a joke in itself). The third time a colleague in a cafe pumped me for info on how it works.</p>
<p>I think it's a bit of a fad right now. I don't know that the Bixi system will be quite as popular after the novelty wears off, but I suppose you can say that about just about everything.</p>
<p>I'll likely never use it again. At 6'4" these bikes are just too small for me, even with the seat post fully extended. My knees were sore after using it. And they're heavy beasts, with fat tires. Also, it's been so long since I rode a three-speed  I forgot how nice it was to have 21.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79713</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The item that grabbed my attention from Andy&#039;s article was the fact that you could arrive at your destination and the rack could be full...thereby forcing you to find the nearest rack with space. And I sincerely hope that a tourist doesn&#039;t try to ride a Bixi down the deMaisoneuve path sans-helmet. That would be a horrible headline.   They&#039;ll work the kinks out the the system soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The item that grabbed my attention from Andy's article was the fact that you could arrive at your destination and the rack could be full...thereby forcing you to find the nearest rack with space. And I sincerely hope that a tourist doesn't try to ride a Bixi down the deMaisoneuve path sans-helmet. That would be a horrible headline.   They'll work the kinks out the the system soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Bélanger</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79708</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Bélanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder though if Bixi is limited to people carrying 1)credit cards 2)with $250 dollars available on it? 

What if you want to rent a Bixi but don&#039;t own a credit card? What if you&#039;re 16 to 18 years old and can&#039;t have a credit card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder though if Bixi is limited to people carrying 1)credit cards 2)with $250 dollars available on it? </p>
<p>What if you want to rent a Bixi but don't own a credit card? What if you're 16 to 18 years old and can't have a credit card?</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/05/29/bixi-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-79613</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc: Awww - bad news. Those tanks seem like they could really take on a snowdrift. Oh well. Thanks for the lowdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc: Awww - bad news. Those tanks seem like they could really take on a snowdrift. Oh well. Thanks for the lowdown.</p>
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