Comments on: The Rest of Quebec http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94565 Fagstein Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:10:56 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94565 To be clear, I'm not blaming only the media. And I think the Canadian inferiority complex toward Toronto (and the U.S., for that matter) is another symptom of the same problem on a larger scale. To be clear, I'm not blaming only the media. And I think the Canadian inferiority complex toward Toronto (and the U.S., for that matter) is another symptom of the same problem on a larger scale.

]]> By: Kevin http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94514 Kevin Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:23:58 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94514 I lived in Vancouver for nearly a decade, and things are fairly different out there. Most of the major TV newsrooms actually have bureaus way out in the 'burbs. It'd be like CFCF having an Eastern Townships bureau (which it kinda used to have with Jessica Brown, until she jumped to CBC). And I agree, we could use more 'rural' reporting in our local Montreal-based media. So ask for it! I lived in Vancouver for nearly a decade, and things are fairly different out there. Most of the major TV newsrooms actually have bureaus way out in the 'burbs. It'd be like CFCF having an Eastern Townships bureau (which it kinda used to have with Jessica Brown, until she jumped to CBC).

And I agree, we could use more 'rural' reporting in our local Montreal-based media. So ask for it!

]]> By: kyle http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94501 kyle Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:05:44 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94501 Media is to blame? Not so sure about that. It's the same in any region of the planet. Smaller cities have inferiority complexes when they compare themselves to bigger cities. Period. And as if Montreal doesn't have an inferiority complex to Toronto, New York, Paris. Right. The passing of the torch to Toronto as Canada's biggest city was a major blow to many Montrealers....so much so that many of them moved to Toronto. Obviously, language laws and economic opportunity had nothing to do with this. ;-) But seriously, media-wise, as soon as I step foot off the island and stay in Quebec, I expect nothing less than 100% of my experience to be en Francais. Sure, this may lead to the problem of Montreal as the sole region of Quebec that has english media, and be viewed by outsiders as an-anglo-filled place to detest, but maybe, just maybe, angryphones should be a little bit less proud and suck it up. The plains of Abraham was a physical battle. The Anglos lost the media/publicty/political battle to the french language media machine LONG AGO and should be happy with whatever we're left with. Ca marche comme ca ici. Et, ca marche bien, a mon avis. Media is to blame? Not so sure about that. It's the same in any region of the planet. Smaller cities have inferiority complexes when they compare themselves to bigger cities. Period. And as if Montreal doesn't have an inferiority complex to Toronto, New York, Paris. Right. The passing of the torch to Toronto as Canada's biggest city was a major blow to many Montrealers....so much so that many of them moved to Toronto. Obviously, language laws and economic opportunity had nothing to do with this. ;-) But seriously, media-wise, as soon as I step foot off the island and stay in Quebec, I expect nothing less than 100% of my experience to be en Francais. Sure, this may lead to the problem of Montreal as the sole region of Quebec that has english media, and be viewed by outsiders as an-anglo-filled place to detest, but maybe, just maybe, angryphones should be a little bit less proud and suck it up. The plains of Abraham was a physical battle. The Anglos lost the media/publicty/political battle to the french language media machine LONG AGO and should be happy with whatever we're left with. Ca marche comme ca ici. Et, ca marche bien, a mon avis.

]]> By: Ricky Leong http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94499 Ricky Leong Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:53:14 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94499 Quebec hates Montreal -- the way Alberta hates Calgary, B.C. hates Vancouver and Canada hates Toronto. It's the natural order of things. :) Quebec hates Montreal -- the way Alberta hates Calgary, B.C. hates Vancouver and Canada hates Toronto. It's the natural order of things. :)

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94495 Fagstein Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:27:22 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94495 It's easy to have a reporter take minutes at a city council meeting, or write down some opposition councillor's beef with the administration. But how many of them have undertaken actual investigative reporting about city issues? It's easy to have a reporter take minutes at a city council meeting, or write down some opposition councillor's beef with the administration. But how many of them have undertaken actual investigative reporting about city issues?

]]> By: Dominique http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94403 Dominique Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:07:17 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94403 Local papers like the Westmount Examiner have reporters at City Hall meetings and report on them. Local papers like the Westmount Examiner have reporters at City Hall meetings and report on them.

]]> By: Digital TV http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/09/23/the-rest-of-quebec/comment-page-1/#comment-94387 Digital TV Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:39:58 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7014#comment-94387 As much as we may hate the idea that everything revolves around the Universe of Toronto, Montreal does the same thing. This is a very serious problem. But, I believe part of the problem is the CRTC's fault. They have allowed broadcast corporations to own too many stations. Global, CTV own all their stations. No affiliates. TVA pretty much controls all its stations except for the few owned by Radio-Nord. Unlike the US, the FCC sets limits on network ownership of stations. So the networks must deal with the majority being affiliates in their network group. Not so in Canada. The main corporation is either in Toronto or Montreal. And, the rest of the stations they own are just there for there signal to be retransmitted to the other markets. That is the CRTC's fault for allowing such media concentration. The CRTC needs to force changes in media ownership in this country or else this pathetic situation will continue. As for CKMI-TV. Global has made it clear that they will convert only 1 station per market to Digital TV. So, there move to transfer the CKMI-TV license to a Montreal station instead of a Quebec City station is clear. What will happen to the re-transmitters in Sherbrooke & Quebec City will be a wait and see situation. Either they will have to be shutdown, or they will continue as analogue retransmitters. I don't mind if and when CKMI-DT goes on the air that it's transmitting only out of Montreal. But, this nonsense of transmitting only in low power is unacceptable. They can transmit a full power signal from Montreal, and that signal can be received with a external antenna as far as Trois-Rivieres, Sherbrooke. But they need to forced by the CRTC and Industry Canada to do so. The same goes for CBMT-DT and whenever CFCF-DT finally goes on air. They should not be allowed to have re-transmitters. Local communities will never get a station that will deal with local issues as long as big city stations are allowed to place re-transmitters outside their market, and in effect kill any attempt for a local TV station. The same applies for both Englsih and French stations. As much as we may hate the idea that everything revolves around the Universe of Toronto, Montreal does the same thing. This is a very serious problem. But, I believe part of the problem is the CRTC's fault. They have allowed broadcast corporations to own too many stations. Global, CTV own all their stations. No affiliates. TVA pretty much controls all its stations except for the few owned by Radio-Nord. Unlike the US, the FCC sets limits on network ownership of stations. So the networks must deal with the majority being affiliates in their network group. Not so in Canada. The main corporation is either in Toronto or Montreal. And, the rest of the stations they own are just there for there signal to be retransmitted to the other markets. That is the CRTC's fault for allowing such media concentration. The CRTC needs to force changes in media ownership in this country or else this pathetic situation will continue.

As for CKMI-TV. Global has made it clear that they will convert only 1 station per market to Digital TV. So, there move to transfer the CKMI-TV license to a Montreal station instead of a Quebec City station is clear. What will happen to the re-transmitters in Sherbrooke & Quebec City will be a wait and see situation. Either they will have to be shutdown, or they will continue as analogue retransmitters. I don't mind if and when CKMI-DT goes on the air that it's transmitting only out of Montreal. But, this nonsense of transmitting only in low power is unacceptable. They can transmit a full power signal from Montreal, and that signal can be received with a external antenna as far as Trois-Rivieres, Sherbrooke. But they need to forced by the CRTC and Industry Canada to do so. The same goes for CBMT-DT and whenever CFCF-DT finally goes on air. They should not be allowed to have re-transmitters. Local communities will never get a station that will deal with local issues as long as big city stations are allowed to place re-transmitters outside their market, and in effect kill any attempt for a local TV station. The same applies for both Englsih and French stations.

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