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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-108055</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn:

Wow. Just wow. It look me like 5 scrolls on my mouse to get through that damn list. I think they may air more American programming than American networks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn:</p>
<p>Wow. Just wow. It look me like 5 scrolls on my mouse to get through that damn list. I think they may air more American programming than American networks!</p>
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		<title>By: Pepper Boxer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pepper Boxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should stop subsidizing local TV and Canadian content altogether. 

Karl Peladeau recently stated that consumers should be able to choose the channels that they want. That is a great place to start. If the CRTC would de-regulate on basic cable packages, the entire debate would be moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should stop subsidizing local TV and Canadian content altogether. </p>
<p>Karl Peladeau recently stated that consumers should be able to choose the channels that they want. That is a great place to start. If the CRTC would de-regulate on basic cable packages, the entire debate would be moot.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Peterson</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106918</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a ploy to get more money to air even more American programming, because these shows aren&#039;t enough:

All My Children
30 Rock
Jimmy Kimmel
America&#039;s Got Talent
Kilmora: Life in the Fab Lane
America&#039;s Toughest Jobs
Cold Case
Grey&#039;s Anatomy
Supernanny
Eli Stone
Parks and Recreation
Gossip Girl
Battlestar Galactica
Dirty Sexy Money
High School Musical
Fringe
The Simpsons
Tonight Show with Conan O&#039;Brien
Jimmy Fallon
60 Minutes
Mad Men
Missing
One Life to Live
America&#039;s Next Top Model
Private Practice
Pushing Daisies
Samantha Who?
Supernanny
Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles
The Big Bang Theory
The Ellen DeGeneres Show
The Mentalist
The Jay Leno Show
TMZ
TMZ Weekend
Two and a Half Men
Whose Line is it Anyways
Who Wants to be a Millionaire
Wife Swap
Live with Regis and Kelly
The View
The NFL
The PGA
America&#039;s Funniest Home Videos
Bold and the Beatiful 
Oprah
General Hospital
Dr. Phil
Access Hollywood
The Amazing Race
Law and Order
Law and Order: CI
Law and Order: SVU
CSI
CSI: New York
CSI: Miami
Don&#039;t Forget the Lyrics
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report
So You Think You Can Dance
American Idol
Ghost Whisperer
Hole in the Wall
Numbers
Prison Break
Heroes
My Own Worst Enemy
House
90210
Kitchen Nightmares
Bones
Survivor
The Office
Kath and Kim
Life on Mars
Life
The Ex-List
King of the Hill
Family Guy
American Dad
Brothers and Sisters
&#039;Til Death
How I Met Your Mother
Do Not Disturb
Worst Week
Boston Legal
Knight Rider
Deal or No Deal
E! Ture Hollywood Story
My Name is Earl
Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader?
Dateline NBC
Eleventh Hour
20/20
Snoop Dogg&#039;s Father Hood
Forbes Specials
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
The Real Housewives of Orange County
Cougar Town
Modern Family
Curb Your Enthusiasm
The Biggest Loser
Judge Judy 

I knew it was bad, but I didn&#039;t think it was this bad.  This list is longer than my grocery list for a full year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a ploy to get more money to air even more American programming, because these shows aren't enough:</p>
<p>All My Children<br />
30 Rock<br />
Jimmy Kimmel<br />
America's Got Talent<br />
Kilmora: Life in the Fab Lane<br />
America's Toughest Jobs<br />
Cold Case<br />
Grey's Anatomy<br />
Supernanny<br />
Eli Stone<br />
Parks and Recreation<br />
Gossip Girl<br />
Battlestar Galactica<br />
Dirty Sexy Money<br />
High School Musical<br />
Fringe<br />
The Simpsons<br />
Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien<br />
Jimmy Fallon<br />
60 Minutes<br />
Mad Men<br />
Missing<br />
One Life to Live<br />
America's Next Top Model<br />
Private Practice<br />
Pushing Daisies<br />
Samantha Who?<br />
Supernanny<br />
Terminator: Sarah Conner Chronicles<br />
The Big Bang Theory<br />
The Ellen DeGeneres Show<br />
The Mentalist<br />
The Jay Leno Show<br />
TMZ<br />
TMZ Weekend<br />
Two and a Half Men<br />
Whose Line is it Anyways<br />
Who Wants to be a Millionaire<br />
Wife Swap<br />
Live with Regis and Kelly<br />
The View<br />
The NFL<br />
The PGA<br />
America's Funniest Home Videos<br />
Bold and the Beatiful<br />
Oprah<br />
General Hospital<br />
Dr. Phil<br />
Access Hollywood<br />
The Amazing Race<br />
Law and Order<br />
Law and Order: CI<br />
Law and Order: SVU<br />
CSI<br />
CSI: New York<br />
CSI: Miami<br />
Don't Forget the Lyrics<br />
NCIS<br />
NCIS: Los Angeles<br />
The Daily Show<br />
The Colbert Report<br />
So You Think You Can Dance<br />
American Idol<br />
Ghost Whisperer<br />
Hole in the Wall<br />
Numbers<br />
Prison Break<br />
Heroes<br />
My Own Worst Enemy<br />
House<br />
90210<br />
Kitchen Nightmares<br />
Bones<br />
Survivor<br />
The Office<br />
Kath and Kim<br />
Life on Mars<br />
Life<br />
The Ex-List<br />
King of the Hill<br />
Family Guy<br />
American Dad<br />
Brothers and Sisters<br />
'Til Death<br />
How I Met Your Mother<br />
Do Not Disturb<br />
Worst Week<br />
Boston Legal<br />
Knight Rider<br />
Deal or No Deal<br />
E! Ture Hollywood Story<br />
My Name is Earl<br />
Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader?<br />
Dateline NBC<br />
Eleventh Hour<br />
20/20<br />
Snoop Dogg's Father Hood<br />
Forbes Specials<br />
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition<br />
The Real Housewives of Orange County<br />
Cougar Town<br />
Modern Family<br />
Curb Your Enthusiasm<br />
The Biggest Loser<br />
Judge Judy </p>
<p>I knew it was bad, but I didn't think it was this bad.  This list is longer than my grocery list for a full year.</p>
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		<title>By: Fassero</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106757</link>
		<dc:creator>Fassero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not how much they can charge for commercials as much as advertisers, due to the recession (especially in the U.S.), are cutting back their ad spending, period. This has affected all areas of media - TV, radio, print, etc. The bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler were huge because North American car companies are huge players in the Canadian ad market (along with banks, telcos, governments, and beer companies.) That being said, this has been on the horizon for a few years and the Canadian broadcasters tried to deal with it by massive consolidation (mainly through way overleveraged buying) and ridiculous bidding wars for U.S. programs to the point where that area is largely a duopoly (CTV, Canwest) that even buys shows just to leave them in storage so nobody else can try to run them. 

Realistically, nobody will force the networks to run American programming commercial free. American shows run about 21 minutes per half hour and they are bought so the gap time is the place to finance it. Personally, since the Canadian broadcasters claim to want a model similar to the US, I&#039;d tell them to replicate it completely. Let each network only be allowed to own an affiliate in the two or three largest cities in the country and dump their licenses for everything else. Then, like the US, they have to dedicate at least 90 percent of their primetime programming to domestic shows. And simultaneous signal substitution is history (if CTV wants to show &quot;Dancing with the Stars&quot;, either make a Canadian version or run it at 2 in the afternoon. If they don&#039;t like it, tell &#039;em to buy every Canadian a PVR if they&#039;re so worried about ratings decline.) After all that......give them their fee for carriage. It says here that they&#039;d run and say they&#039;ll manage just fine thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not how much they can charge for commercials as much as advertisers, due to the recession (especially in the U.S.), are cutting back their ad spending, period. This has affected all areas of media - TV, radio, print, etc. The bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler were huge because North American car companies are huge players in the Canadian ad market (along with banks, telcos, governments, and beer companies.) That being said, this has been on the horizon for a few years and the Canadian broadcasters tried to deal with it by massive consolidation (mainly through way overleveraged buying) and ridiculous bidding wars for U.S. programs to the point where that area is largely a duopoly (CTV, Canwest) that even buys shows just to leave them in storage so nobody else can try to run them. </p>
<p>Realistically, nobody will force the networks to run American programming commercial free. American shows run about 21 minutes per half hour and they are bought so the gap time is the place to finance it. Personally, since the Canadian broadcasters claim to want a model similar to the US, I'd tell them to replicate it completely. Let each network only be allowed to own an affiliate in the two or three largest cities in the country and dump their licenses for everything else. Then, like the US, they have to dedicate at least 90 percent of their primetime programming to domestic shows. And simultaneous signal substitution is history (if CTV wants to show "Dancing with the Stars", either make a Canadian version or run it at 2 in the afternoon. If they don't like it, tell 'em to buy every Canadian a PVR if they're so worried about ratings decline.) After all that......give them their fee for carriage. It says here that they'd run and say they'll manage just fine thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: jean.naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106755</link>
		<dc:creator>jean.naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Without getting into the whole stealing aspect of the conversation, &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Let&#8217;s.
How is picking up a signal on rabbit ears and videotaping it to watch it later any different from downloading it and watching it later???
To hear some, it would seem the former is kinda okayish, whilst the second if bringing the whole universe on it&#8217;s knees and has to be absolutely eradicated, civil liberties be dammned!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
<em>Without getting into the whole stealing aspect of the conversation, </em>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&rsquo;s.<br />
How is picking up a signal on rabbit ears and videotaping it to watch it later any different from downloading it and watching it later???<br />
To hear some, it would seem the former is kinda okayish, whilst the second if bringing the whole universe on it&rsquo;s knees and has to be absolutely eradicated, civil liberties be dammned!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need local Tv stations beside news? National Tv station can just insert 15 min of local news in their main show. In this way a local studio is more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need local Tv stations beside news? National Tv station can just insert 15 min of local news in their main show. In this way a local studio is more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Theoret</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106726</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Theoret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article I linked to about Roku seems to have been taken down. Here&#039;s another: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/22/roku-announces-roku-channel-store-adds-facebook-and-pandora-and-maybe-porn/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article I linked to about Roku seems to have been taken down. Here's another: <a href="http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/22/roku-announces-roku-channel-store-adds-facebook-and-pandora-and-maybe-porn/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/22/roku-announces-roku-channel-store-adds-facebook-and-pandora-and-maybe-porn/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Theoret</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106724</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Theoret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t actually watch any of those shows, (The only show I&#039;ve watched this year is Dexter which you wouldn&#039;t get on regular cable anyway) I agree that most people that don&#039;t watch cable can only manage it because the shows are available on torrents.

On the other hand, I think it&#039;s companies like Roku that are truly innovating and that are the future for that market of people. For example, their recent announcement of the Roku Channel Store: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/23/roku-channel-store-launches-with-10-new-channels-available/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don't actually watch any of those shows, (The only show I've watched this year is Dexter which you wouldn't get on regular cable anyway) I agree that most people that don't watch cable can only manage it because the shows are available on torrents.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think it's companies like Roku that are truly innovating and that are the future for that market of people. For example, their recent announcement of the Roku Channel Store: <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/23/roku-channel-store-launches-with-10-new-channels-available/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/23/roku-channel-store-launches-with-10-new-channels-available/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ATSC</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/21/what-if-we-stopped-subsidizing-local-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-106719</link>
		<dc:creator>ATSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: jean.naimard</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean.naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Conventionnal” TV stations take their revenues from advertising. They complain about decreased profitability.

Well, either they are getting too greedy (like 99.99999% of the businesses out there), or they do not charge enough for their commercials (a variation of the point above).

And if they want to air US TV programmes, they should be allowed to air as much as they want. However, they should not be allowed to have commercials while they air them.

This way, they’ll get back into producing “canadian” programmes (oh, those will suck, compared to US programmes, yes, but hey! that’s what happen when you live next to a 900 pound gorilla).

Or they’ll shut down, and leave their market to someone else who can live with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Conventionnal” TV stations take their revenues from advertising. They complain about decreased profitability.</p>
<p>Well, either they are getting too greedy (like 99.99999% of the businesses out there), or they do not charge enough for their commercials (a variation of the point above).</p>
<p>And if they want to air US TV programmes, they should be allowed to air as much as they want. However, they should not be allowed to have commercials while they air them.</p>
<p>This way, they’ll get back into producing “canadian” programmes (oh, those will suck, compared to US programmes, yes, but hey! that’s what happen when you live next to a 900 pound gorilla).</p>
<p>Or they’ll shut down, and leave their market to someone else who can live with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fassero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fassero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely written. I&#039;ll disagree about the cheapness of licensing a Canadian version of a US reality show. I bet CTV and Global pay through the nose for Canadian Idol, Project Runway Canada, SYTYCDC, etc. In fact I suspect that&#039;s why Canadian Idol has not aired in more than two years and probably will not be returning any time soon - namely, the audience numbers had fallen to the point where they couldn&#039;t afford to keep up the costs and the ad revenues that would flow with it (and I&#039;d bet that number was a minimum of about 1.5-2 million viewers a week which, in any other case (including a U.S. drama or comedy series) would be quite good). 

The next great innovative local channel or network (mini-network?) is going to come from an individual or family-run operation and it will start via internet streaming. The cost of getting network broadcast bandwidth (if you can even get it) combined with Global and CTV stockpiling every American show around makes even a start-up cost prohibitive if not impossible. Just a gut feeling. 

I&#039;d love the CRTC to do nothing. CTV will file for bankruptcy if they don&#039;t extract a penny out of this and Global is already in a restructuring mode that practically hinders on getting an extra handout (serves Izzy&#039;s boys right for selling their souls to Goldman Sachs). And, yes, these monoliths certainly CAN use their specialty profits to subsidize their deadweight. I seem to recall it was just a couple of years ago when CTV overpaid the Waters family to get the CHUM assets - a deal they wanted so badly that, to get the CRTC onside, they switched their side deal with Rogers and sold off the CITY stations instead of the A channel stations (in other words, fully accepting a less lucrative OTA parcel because they so badly wanted the other assets.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely written. I'll disagree about the cheapness of licensing a Canadian version of a US reality show. I bet CTV and Global pay through the nose for Canadian Idol, Project Runway Canada, SYTYCDC, etc. In fact I suspect that's why Canadian Idol has not aired in more than two years and probably will not be returning any time soon - namely, the audience numbers had fallen to the point where they couldn't afford to keep up the costs and the ad revenues that would flow with it (and I'd bet that number was a minimum of about 1.5-2 million viewers a week which, in any other case (including a U.S. drama or comedy series) would be quite good). </p>
<p>The next great innovative local channel or network (mini-network?) is going to come from an individual or family-run operation and it will start via internet streaming. The cost of getting network broadcast bandwidth (if you can even get it) combined with Global and CTV stockpiling every American show around makes even a start-up cost prohibitive if not impossible. Just a gut feeling. </p>
<p>I'd love the CRTC to do nothing. CTV will file for bankruptcy if they don't extract a penny out of this and Global is already in a restructuring mode that practically hinders on getting an extra handout (serves Izzy's boys right for selling their souls to Goldman Sachs). And, yes, these monoliths certainly CAN use their specialty profits to subsidize their deadweight. I seem to recall it was just a couple of years ago when CTV overpaid the Waters family to get the CHUM assets - a deal they wanted so badly that, to get the CRTC onside, they switched their side deal with Rogers and sold off the CITY stations instead of the A channel stations (in other words, fully accepting a less lucrative OTA parcel because they so badly wanted the other assets.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean no disrespect to anyone, but people who laugh at people who still watch conventional tv remind me of people who insult car drivers, but ask their car-owning friend to take them to their truck-supplied Ikea every two months.

Without getting into the whole stealing aspect of the conversation, you have to concede that conventional television viewers, with their subscriptions fees and--yes, advertising--make that episode of Battlestar or Lost you just downloaded possible. They basically paid for it, with sufficient enough a profit to make production companies and distributors willing to put it out there.

So, in summary, thank your lucky stars there STILL ARE people watching television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean no disrespect to anyone, but people who laugh at people who still watch conventional tv remind me of people who insult car drivers, but ask their car-owning friend to take them to their truck-supplied Ikea every two months.</p>
<p>Without getting into the whole stealing aspect of the conversation, you have to concede that conventional television viewers, with their subscriptions fees and--yes, advertising--make that episode of Battlestar or Lost you just downloaded possible. They basically paid for it, with sufficient enough a profit to make production companies and distributors willing to put it out there.</p>
<p>So, in summary, thank your lucky stars there STILL ARE people watching television.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Theoret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guillaume Theoret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m convinced that the people who still watch TV are simply the ones who don&#039;t know any better. I haven&#039;t had cable in at least 4 or 5 years. I don&#039;t miss it. The only thing I miss is Habs games and I just go watch those at a friend&#039;s place or at  a bar with friends which is much more fun anyway. Everything else isn&#039;t live and I can just torrent if I care about it. (Though I usually don&#039;t, the only TV stuff I torrent is anime and I haven&#039;t found a good new one since death note.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm convinced that the people who still watch TV are simply the ones who don't know any better. I haven't had cable in at least 4 or 5 years. I don't miss it. The only thing I miss is Habs games and I just go watch those at a friend's place or at  a bar with friends which is much more fun anyway. Everything else isn't live and I can just torrent if I care about it. (Though I usually don't, the only TV stuff I torrent is anime and I haven't found a good new one since death note.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Steve. I agree that the whole model needs a re-think and the stance that the two major players (content providers/networks vs distributors/cable+satellite) is just a lot of steam being blown about more money that they want from our pockets for not a heck of a lot, if any more product or service. Someone has to start thinking outside the box to provide that local content which we all ultimately like to watch or hear !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Steve. I agree that the whole model needs a re-think and the stance that the two major players (content providers/networks vs distributors/cable+satellite) is just a lot of steam being blown about more money that they want from our pockets for not a heck of a lot, if any more product or service. Someone has to start thinking outside the box to provide that local content which we all ultimately like to watch or hear !</p>
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		<title>By: Heather H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, let&#039;s cut all protections to Canadian cultural institutions and TV networks.  CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS would then open Canadian bureaus uising their power and money, and would provide news coverage for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, let's cut all protections to Canadian cultural institutions and TV networks.  CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS would then open Canadian bureaus uising their power and money, and would provide news coverage for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: ATSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A watched a good part of the CRTC meetings this week on the CPAC website. I believe there is another week of these meetings.

Yes, CTV, CBC/SRC, Global and the rest of them complained about a lack of fee for carriage. But, this was not the only voice in the matter. The Corus group mentioned that their Over-the-Air (OTA) stations where doing fine. They have three stations. One of them is in Kingston,ON. This caught the CRTC by surprise. The Corus group mentioned something about being focused on local needs of advertisers, and the local audience. So, just goes to show you that what CTV and friends are complaining about is not universal. Just their way of operating their stations.

CTV and friends are centrally run business out of Toronto. They have no idea what their local markets need. And so, they focus on a across the board network programming. This attitude has destroyed the local TV stations they own. The french media does the same only they do it with Montreal. I don&#039;t believe any of these stations will recover until the CRTC forces them to be limited to owning 40% of all the stations in their network. Just like the FCC puts limits on US networks owning no more than about 40% of their affliliates. And also to imposing what when the networks can provide network programming. Example, the US networks prime time is 8pm-11pm. The hours just before are local, so that the local stations can provide local news, and earn money from syndicated programs etc. The CRTC should force CTV, and Global, plus all Canadian networks to do the same.  4pm - 8pm should be local. 8pm-11pm is network with 50% of the shows being original Canadian shows. 11pm-midnight local. The only exemption would be a 30min network news in either the 4pm-8pm slot or the 11pm-midnight slot. This will allow local stations to operate much as the local US stations do. And, anybody that watches local US stations can see the amount of local news, those stations do. 

CTV and friends have been allowed to own all of their stations. The day this happened, they no longer operated as networks with local affiliates. It is at this point that local newsrooms, and local master controls where shut down. The CRTC needs to look at this as a way to correct the problem. 

Also, for those interested on the CRTC hearings, they can follow them at the CPAC site. I believe you can even see last weeks meetings on their site as well.

As for this site, please keep up the good work on covering this subject matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A watched a good part of the CRTC meetings this week on the CPAC website. I believe there is another week of these meetings.</p>
<p>Yes, CTV, CBC/SRC, Global and the rest of them complained about a lack of fee for carriage. But, this was not the only voice in the matter. The Corus group mentioned that their Over-the-Air (OTA) stations where doing fine. They have three stations. One of them is in Kingston,ON. This caught the CRTC by surprise. The Corus group mentioned something about being focused on local needs of advertisers, and the local audience. So, just goes to show you that what CTV and friends are complaining about is not universal. Just their way of operating their stations.</p>
<p>CTV and friends are centrally run business out of Toronto. They have no idea what their local markets need. And so, they focus on a across the board network programming. This attitude has destroyed the local TV stations they own. The french media does the same only they do it with Montreal. I don't believe any of these stations will recover until the CRTC forces them to be limited to owning 40% of all the stations in their network. Just like the FCC puts limits on US networks owning no more than about 40% of their affliliates. And also to imposing what when the networks can provide network programming. Example, the US networks prime time is 8pm-11pm. The hours just before are local, so that the local stations can provide local news, and earn money from syndicated programs etc. The CRTC should force CTV, and Global, plus all Canadian networks to do the same.  4pm - 8pm should be local. 8pm-11pm is network with 50% of the shows being original Canadian shows. 11pm-midnight local. The only exemption would be a 30min network news in either the 4pm-8pm slot or the 11pm-midnight slot. This will allow local stations to operate much as the local US stations do. And, anybody that watches local US stations can see the amount of local news, those stations do. </p>
<p>CTV and friends have been allowed to own all of their stations. The day this happened, they no longer operated as networks with local affiliates. It is at this point that local newsrooms, and local master controls where shut down. The CRTC needs to look at this as a way to correct the problem. </p>
<p>Also, for those interested on the CRTC hearings, they can follow them at the CPAC site. I believe you can even see last weeks meetings on their site as well.</p>
<p>As for this site, please keep up the good work on covering this subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it amazing that people STILL watch television.  It seems almost archaic to pay however much cable costs to have television stations dictate what you watch and when, while subjecting you to 11 minutes of commercials for every 30 minutes of programming when you can download entire seasons online, watch whichever episode you want, whenever, and wherever you want (if you have a laptop) and commercial free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amazing that people STILL watch television.  It seems almost archaic to pay however much cable costs to have television stations dictate what you watch and when, while subjecting you to 11 minutes of commercials for every 30 minutes of programming when you can download entire seasons online, watch whichever episode you want, whenever, and wherever you want (if you have a laptop) and commercial free.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The CTV Montreal website&#039;s video player clearly has the news block online as one item, along with individual stories.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The block only shows the first 11 minutes of the newscast, up until the first commercial break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The CTV Montreal website's video player clearly has the news block online as one item, along with individual stories.</p></blockquote>
<p>The block only shows the first 11 minutes of the newscast, up until the first commercial break.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Theoret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guillaume Theoret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it&#039;s not their market and they have no expertise there but Google&#039;s model has a lot this case could learn from. And it&#039;s what&#039;s going to hurt them most.

Google leverages its monopoly on search (and therefore relevant ad placement which actually makes the money) to build high quality products in tangential sectors that drive more traffic and more money to Google. Emphasis on high quality. More on this later. Convergence still works, but big media seems to have forgotten why it works in the first place. They&#039;re completely focused on economies of scale, driving quality way down, rather than what convergence should really be about: driving people to your profitable sectors. Their current strategy will simply make it easier for new entrants to beat them on both cost *AND* quality.

Local TV, I believe, still has major profit potential. It&#039;s possibly the only traditional media sector outside specialty channels that does, simply because they still have leverage there. But they&#039;re losing it. 

Google actually is their enemy, but not just yet which is why they still haven&#039;t clued in. Large companies can rarely see past the next quarter, which is why companies with a long term plan such as Google and Apple trounce them regularly whenever they enter a new market. A very likely scenario I see panning out is that big media continues their race to the bottom, cutting costs anywhere and everywhere, driving quality terribly down. This drive to cut costs suddenly makes it economical for independents to start up and start reporting on their local situation. Imagine Spacing Montreal TV for example. It&#039;ll be an online podcast you can stream and subscribe to on any mobile device (in a few years most new mobiles will be internet-enabled) or internet-enabled TV (some are already coming out and expect a lot more in the future).

In the meantime, Google&#039;s been working on Android. The real reason Google develops the Android mobile phone OS and licences it to any company that wants it for free is that they end up with expertise in and hopefully, eventually, a near monopoly on localized search. And Android isn&#039;t a bare-minimum effort to do just enough as necessary. Android is very young (only just this month have decent hardware phones started coming out with Android (in the US obviously, Canada is a mobile backwater but that&#039;s a topic for another time)) and already it&#039;s trouncing Windows Mobile and Symbian. It&#039;s a high quality product that Google invests a lot in and doesn&#039;t return a dime. And yet, because it&#039;s driving so many more phones to have decent browsers and decent web accessibility (Windows Mobile&#039;s web browsing is bad, RIM&#039;s is terrible and Symbian is excruciating), Google is poised to make a lot more revenue off their loss leader. It isn&#039;t a big leap to imagine Spacing Montreal TV teaming up with Google&#039;s now-location-aware adsense network and using them for advertising.

Local advertising is the last cash cow Google hasn&#039;t grabbed yet. And big media is going their best to ignore it.

Finally, the reason why local advertising could be, but isn&#039;t yet, a cash cow is because if a local restaurant wants to promote its new launch it has to deal with the marketing and advertising departments of everywhere it wants to advertise along with dealing with all the bureaucracy that entails. It&#039;s too expensive. An automated self-serve tool such as adsense local that will broadcast on all &quot;Google Local News&quot; affiliates (or just those you pick, or just based on certain types of content and lots of other customizations big media doesn&#039;t allow you) brings the costs of advertising way down but Google makes even more profit and this is where Google wins again.

I don&#039;t know anyone my age that watches the news. I know lots that follow local blogs however. And that&#039;s actually quite surprising because on the whole, we&#039;re a pretty lazy bunch. Even so, we&#039;d rather manually fish out the best sources of information than deal with the spoon-fed, incredibly dumbed down, unoriginal and boring easy way out of just flipping on the TV. If there were an online &quot;channel&quot; catering to different types of local news (local tech news that you don&#039;t yell at every time they &quot;explain&quot; the tech, local community news, etc), a large majority of us would tune in.

I think the future of local news is actually pretty good in the long term but in the short term we&#039;re going to hit a rough patch when big media goes into its death throes and, being so large, tries to capture the government to keep it alive (pretty much what&#039;s happening now) when really, we&#039;d be better off with a quicker death and a gaping void that entrepreneurs would rush into and innovate in very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it's not their market and they have no expertise there but Google's model has a lot this case could learn from. And it's what's going to hurt them most.</p>
<p>Google leverages its monopoly on search (and therefore relevant ad placement which actually makes the money) to build high quality products in tangential sectors that drive more traffic and more money to Google. Emphasis on high quality. More on this later. Convergence still works, but big media seems to have forgotten why it works in the first place. They're completely focused on economies of scale, driving quality way down, rather than what convergence should really be about: driving people to your profitable sectors. Their current strategy will simply make it easier for new entrants to beat them on both cost *AND* quality.</p>
<p>Local TV, I believe, still has major profit potential. It's possibly the only traditional media sector outside specialty channels that does, simply because they still have leverage there. But they're losing it. </p>
<p>Google actually is their enemy, but not just yet which is why they still haven't clued in. Large companies can rarely see past the next quarter, which is why companies with a long term plan such as Google and Apple trounce them regularly whenever they enter a new market. A very likely scenario I see panning out is that big media continues their race to the bottom, cutting costs anywhere and everywhere, driving quality terribly down. This drive to cut costs suddenly makes it economical for independents to start up and start reporting on their local situation. Imagine Spacing Montreal TV for example. It'll be an online podcast you can stream and subscribe to on any mobile device (in a few years most new mobiles will be internet-enabled) or internet-enabled TV (some are already coming out and expect a lot more in the future).</p>
<p>In the meantime, Google's been working on Android. The real reason Google develops the Android mobile phone OS and licences it to any company that wants it for free is that they end up with expertise in and hopefully, eventually, a near monopoly on localized search. And Android isn't a bare-minimum effort to do just enough as necessary. Android is very young (only just this month have decent hardware phones started coming out with Android (in the US obviously, Canada is a mobile backwater but that's a topic for another time)) and already it's trouncing Windows Mobile and Symbian. It's a high quality product that Google invests a lot in and doesn't return a dime. And yet, because it's driving so many more phones to have decent browsers and decent web accessibility (Windows Mobile's web browsing is bad, RIM's is terrible and Symbian is excruciating), Google is poised to make a lot more revenue off their loss leader. It isn't a big leap to imagine Spacing Montreal TV teaming up with Google's now-location-aware adsense network and using them for advertising.</p>
<p>Local advertising is the last cash cow Google hasn't grabbed yet. And big media is going their best to ignore it.</p>
<p>Finally, the reason why local advertising could be, but isn't yet, a cash cow is because if a local restaurant wants to promote its new launch it has to deal with the marketing and advertising departments of everywhere it wants to advertise along with dealing with all the bureaucracy that entails. It's too expensive. An automated self-serve tool such as adsense local that will broadcast on all "Google Local News" affiliates (or just those you pick, or just based on certain types of content and lots of other customizations big media doesn't allow you) brings the costs of advertising way down but Google makes even more profit and this is where Google wins again.</p>
<p>I don't know anyone my age that watches the news. I know lots that follow local blogs however. And that's actually quite surprising because on the whole, we're a pretty lazy bunch. Even so, we'd rather manually fish out the best sources of information than deal with the spoon-fed, incredibly dumbed down, unoriginal and boring easy way out of just flipping on the TV. If there were an online "channel" catering to different types of local news (local tech news that you don't yell at every time they "explain" the tech, local community news, etc), a large majority of us would tune in.</p>
<p>I think the future of local news is actually pretty good in the long term but in the short term we're going to hit a rough patch when big media goes into its death throes and, being so large, tries to capture the government to keep it alive (pretty much what's happening now) when really, we'd be better off with a quicker death and a gaping void that entrepreneurs would rush into and innovate in very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(neither of the three anglo stations have all their newscasts available for streaming online, none provide the choice between watching the entire newscast or individual stories, none have newscasts available for podcast download, and none are available on Videotron&#039;s video-on-demand service). 

Not entirely true. The CTV Montreal website&#039;s video player clearly has the news block online as one item, along with individual stories.

The archival section is non-existent, but that&#039;s what Google is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"(neither of the three anglo stations have all their newscasts available for streaming online, none provide the choice between watching the entire newscast or individual stories, none have newscasts available for podcast download, and none are available on Videotron's video-on-demand service). </p>
<p>Not entirely true. The CTV Montreal website's video player clearly has the news block online as one item, along with individual stories.</p>
<p>The archival section is non-existent, but that's what Google is for.</p>
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