Comments on: Tremblay perpetuates STM’s giant “fuck you” to users http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:36:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sylvia http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-110103 Sylvia Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:08:17 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-110103 Thank you for pointing out this form of corruption. Thank you for pointing out this form of corruption.

]]> By: James Lawlor http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-108231 James Lawlor Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:26:29 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-108231 Shouldn't the 'users' spot on the board of directors actually be a user? Who was it in the Doré years? Perhaps if STM users were organized then that group could push to get their candidate on the board? In New York there is the straphangers (www.straphangers.org) that push for better service. Why not here? Shouldn't the 'users' spot on the board of directors actually be a user? Who was it in the Doré years?

Perhaps if STM users were organized then that group could push to get their candidate on the board?
In New York there is the straphangers (www.straphangers.org) that push for better service. Why not here?

]]> By: TC http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-108222 TC Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:22:00 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-108222 WKH (above) has a good point about public interest. Even if the public representatives are not a rubber stamp, they end up ignored if they are not savvy. So, my suggestions are: The public reps should not own a car. It ensures they really rely on public transit. They should arrive at meetings cranky when their bus didn't show up, ready to hammer the STM. Second, require that they be nominated by the leading opposition party. That takes care of the savvy part. Yes, there might be maneuvering and political posturing. Good! That is how to get the press, and public, to pay attention. WKH (above) has a good point about public interest. Even if the public representatives are not a rubber stamp, they end up ignored if they are not savvy.

So, my suggestions are:

The public reps should not own a car. It ensures they really rely on public transit. They should arrive at meetings cranky when their bus didn't show up, ready to hammer the STM. Second, require that they be nominated by the leading opposition party. That takes care of the savvy part. Yes, there might be maneuvering and political posturing. Good! That is how to get the press, and public, to pay attention.

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-108047 Fagstein Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:25:00 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-108047 I would argue that the STM has a more direct impact on people's lives than most government agencies. Or, at least, there are more complaints, and more of a need for public input here. Not to mention its large budget. I would argue that the STM has a more direct impact on people's lives than most government agencies. Or, at least, there are more complaints, and more of a need for public input here. Not to mention its large budget.

]]> By: wkh http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-108041 wkh Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:00:21 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-108041 To be honest, I think it should be someone who at least knows the game on there. Why? Because otherwise the "public" seat is going to get left out of all the backroom shenanigans going on and nodded at politely and then ignored. Sort of like students on the BoG. If they're someone politicians actually care about and need to work with, then they might listen to them and work with them. The trick is to get the public seat holder to understand the public is watching. In other words if you act like Tremblay's tool on this board, GFL getting my vote come election. Alas, let's face it, no one is watching. Related to that... Another problem with "public" seats is in general outside of media and people you would declare "politicos" the public is largely uninterested in these seats. They don't have time. They have jobs, shit to do, and know their presence will make little difference. This is why Junior Pol Wannabes start with school and health boards and work up. To be honest, I think it should be someone who at least knows the game on there. Why? Because otherwise the "public" seat is going to get left out of all the backroom shenanigans going on and nodded at politely and then ignored. Sort of like students on the BoG. If they're someone politicians actually care about and need to work with, then they might listen to them and work with them.

The trick is to get the public seat holder to understand the public is watching. In other words if you act like Tremblay's tool on this board, GFL getting my vote come election. Alas, let's face it, no one is watching.

Related to that... Another problem with "public" seats is in general outside of media and people you would declare "politicos" the public is largely uninterested in these seats. They don't have time. They have jobs, shit to do, and know their presence will make little difference. This is why Junior Pol Wannabes start with school and health boards and work up.

]]> By: Shawn http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/12/01/michel-labrecque-on-stm-board/comment-page-1/#comment-108036 Shawn Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:33:46 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=7654#comment-108036 Agreed, except to add that this sort of thing happens at all levels of government, with chair/president and trustee appointments at crown corporations and agencies. Agreed, except to add that this sort of thing happens at all levels of government, with chair/president and trustee appointments at crown corporations and agencies.

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