Comments on: Journal union celebrates a year off the job with a party http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/ Can you think of a better name? Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113607 Fagstein Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:53:47 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113607 They have similar motives, similar disputes, but Quebecor has learned from the JdeQ about how to circumvent anti-scab laws, and the difference between the two sides is greater. They have similar motives, similar disputes, but Quebecor has learned from the JdeQ about how to circumvent anti-scab laws, and the difference between the two sides is greater.

]]> By: Bill Lee http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113604 Bill Lee Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:26:36 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113604 Compared to the Journal de Quebec, how does this Lockout compare? Would they end similiarly? Compared to the Journal de Quebec, how does this Lockout compare?
Would they end similiarly?

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113580 Fagstein Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:56:04 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113580 Lockout, not strike. There's a difference. Lockout, not strike. There's a difference.

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113578 Fagstein Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:51:47 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113578 You're right that this won't end well for the union. But I don't think this conflict is the result of the union's hard-line stance alone. The demands of the Journal (and, therefore, Quebecor) are also fairly extreme. Some of them (like moving to a five-day workweek and doing more multimedia stuff) have already been agreed to by the union, but the layoffs are necessarily a problem. Even then, some of the journalists are willing to accept a lot. Their limit is convergence, and Quebecor's desire to be able to take content from one property and republish it elsewhere. That, they argue, would strip the Journal of its identity and be a direct threat to their jobs. You're right that this won't end well for the union. But I don't think this conflict is the result of the union's hard-line stance alone. The demands of the Journal (and, therefore, Quebecor) are also fairly extreme. Some of them (like moving to a five-day workweek and doing more multimedia stuff) have already been agreed to by the union, but the layoffs are necessarily a problem.

Even then, some of the journalists are willing to accept a lot. Their limit is convergence, and Quebecor's desire to be able to take content from one property and republish it elsewhere. That, they argue, would strip the Journal of its identity and be a direct threat to their jobs.

]]> By: tone http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113558 tone Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:48:58 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113558 You live and die with unions. I pass by these guys everyday, it's sad to see them out there for a year still striking. It's ugly. This strike is done. There will be no resolution. When the funds run out there will be no winners. Unions are industry killers in recession times. I love the guys at Rue Frontenac. They are doing an amazing job. You live and die with unions. I pass by these guys everyday, it's sad to see them out there for a year still striking. It's ugly. This strike is done. There will be no resolution. When the funds run out there will be no winners. Unions are industry killers in recession times. I love the guys at Rue Frontenac. They are doing an amazing job.

]]> By: James http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113554 James Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:54:13 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113554 This won't end well for the union. As the industry crumbles and reshapes itself cutbacks and realignments are required. It will be painful as the media embraces the information age in earnest, and sticking your feet in the mud and saying you won't agree to anything except the old model from that dying era makes them increasingly appear to be absurd as more and more media outlets are forced to layoff, selloff, or close completely. Generally I can see the reasoning a union makes in their demands, but they seem to be on a suicide mission at this point. This won't end well for the union. As the industry crumbles and reshapes itself cutbacks and realignments are required. It will be painful as the media embraces the information age in earnest, and sticking your feet in the mud and saying you won't agree to anything except the old model from that dying era makes them increasingly appear to be absurd as more and more media outlets are forced to layoff, selloff, or close completely.

Generally I can see the reasoning a union makes in their demands, but they seem to be on a suicide mission at this point.

]]> By: Fagstein http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113511 Fagstein Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:13:10 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113511 I was being somewhat sarcastic with the "celebrate" thing. It's not like a birthday party. I was being somewhat sarcastic with the "celebrate" thing. It's not like a birthday party.

]]> By: wkh http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/21/journal-1-year-party/comment-page-1/#comment-113507 wkh Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:50:16 +0000 http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=8198#comment-113507 Which La Tulipe? Also maybe it's just me but I think a year on strike is kind of officially "unemployed." I don't really think it's something to celebrate at all. Just means both heads are stubborn asshats. Which La Tulipe?

Also maybe it's just me but I think a year on strike is kind of officially "unemployed." I don't really think it's something to celebrate at all. Just means both heads are stubborn asshats.

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