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	<title>Comments on: What part of &#8220;terre de nos aïeux&#8221; don&#8217;t you understand?</title>
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		<title>By: Westerner</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-129503</link>
		<dc:creator>Westerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be entireley in french, (if its still around at that time) as I doubt anyone will really care.  Will not offend me and I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised.  Perhaps at this time it will be Quebec adding to their debt by hosting the Olympics as a sovereign country on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be entireley in french, (if its still around at that time) as I doubt anyone will really care.  Will not offend me and I wouldn't be at all surprised.  Perhaps at this time it will be Quebec adding to their debt by hosting the Olympics as a sovereign country on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Westerner</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-129499</link>
		<dc:creator>Westerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 05:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is  by far majority english.  Quebec is a minority who speak a language which is less than 2% of NA and decreasing by the year.  Canada is not a bilingual country, now everyone including the politicians in Canada should quit misrepresenting the facts.  The head of the francophonie commented on this on national media &quot; I thought Canada was bilingual  - interview with Celine Galipeau&quot;.  French or the less proper &quot;joual&quot; version in Quebec is fine but quite making it an issue on the world stage.  Embarrasing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is  by far majority english.  Quebec is a minority who speak a language which is less than 2% of NA and decreasing by the year.  Canada is not a bilingual country, now everyone including the politicians in Canada should quit misrepresenting the facts.  The head of the francophonie commented on this on national media " I thought Canada was bilingual  - interview with Celine Galipeau".  French or the less proper "joual" version in Quebec is fine but quite making it an issue on the world stage.  Embarrasing!</p>
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		<title>By: alex.r.</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-123764</link>
		<dc:creator>alex.r.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your frustration, but I&#039;m not one to equate a couple hundred voluntary comments done by a couple individuals as proof of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your frustration, but I'm not one to equate a couple hundred voluntary comments done by a couple individuals as proof of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Naimard</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-123594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Naimard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;What really destroyed my morale was when I looked at the comments on anglophone news sites. It didn&#039;t seem like such an isolated perception from a small group of individual anymore. It seemed like the vast majority of commenter either failed to see a value for french or were downright hostile and claiming that it was *better* that there wasn&#039;t much -- that there was too much in fact.&lt;/em&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sekLEG8xsOs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Welcome to Canada&lt;/a&gt;! Canada doesn&#8217;t care about french and would rather see it vanish.
Want more proof if it? &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/09/21/howard-galganov-is-still-an-idiot/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here are more than 1600 proofs of that&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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<em>What really destroyed my morale was when I looked at the comments on anglophone news sites. It didn't seem like such an isolated perception from a small group of individual anymore. It seemed like the vast majority of commenter either failed to see a value for french or were downright hostile and claiming that it was *better* that there wasn't much -- that there was too much in fact.</em>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sekLEG8xsOs" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Canada</a>! Canada doesn&rsquo;t care about french and would rather see it vanish.<br />
Want more proof if it? <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/09/21/howard-galganov-is-still-an-idiot/" rel="nofollow">Here are more than 1600 proofs of that</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-123304</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find no real harm when a small group of organizers ends up not caring about my culture, even if it is unfortunate that they happened to be working for an event of such a scale.

There are misguided people everywhere and sometimes we get unlucky.

What really destroyed my morale was when I looked at the comments on anglophone news sites. It didn&#039;t seem like such an isolated perception from a small group of individual anymore. It seemed like the vast majority of commenter either failed to see a value for french or were downright hostile and claiming that it was *better* that there wasn&#039;t much -- that there was too much in fact.

It wasn&#039;t just bad luck all of a sudden, but just the logical expression of a prior in the population.

At the risk of sounding delusional, I want to believe that these comments are biased and not representative of the true feeling of my compatriots.

Your post felt like an unexpected gift in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find no real harm when a small group of organizers ends up not caring about my culture, even if it is unfortunate that they happened to be working for an event of such a scale.</p>
<p>There are misguided people everywhere and sometimes we get unlucky.</p>
<p>What really destroyed my morale was when I looked at the comments on anglophone news sites. It didn't seem like such an isolated perception from a small group of individual anymore. It seemed like the vast majority of commenter either failed to see a value for french or were downright hostile and claiming that it was *better* that there wasn't much -- that there was too much in fact.</p>
<p>It wasn't just bad luck all of a sudden, but just the logical expression of a prior in the population.</p>
<p>At the risk of sounding delusional, I want to believe that these comments are biased and not representative of the true feeling of my compatriots.</p>
<p>Your post felt like an unexpected gift in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-122132</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the intention was to make this a &quot;specifically Vancouver-centric Olympics&quot;, then neither the opening nor closing ceremonies reflected this. Where was the &quot;Vancouver-centric&quot; humour? Where was the &quot;Vancouver-centric&quot; national anthem? Where was there anything &quot;Vancouver-centric&quot; in the ceremonies at all?

This wasn&#039;t the Vancouver Olympics during those ceremonies, it was the Canadian Olympics. They brought in East Coast fiddlers, Nikki Yanofsky, William Shatner and Simple Plan, but apparently decided against having too much French. That&#039;s my problem.

And I never said either ceremony was an overall failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the intention was to make this a "specifically Vancouver-centric Olympics", then neither the opening nor closing ceremonies reflected this. Where was the "Vancouver-centric" humour? Where was the "Vancouver-centric" national anthem? Where was there anything "Vancouver-centric" in the ceremonies at all?</p>
<p>This wasn't the Vancouver Olympics during those ceremonies, it was the Canadian Olympics. They brought in East Coast fiddlers, Nikki Yanofsky, William Shatner and Simple Plan, but apparently decided against having too much French. That's my problem.</p>
<p>And I never said either ceremony was an overall failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Shebbeare</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-122129</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Shebbeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The closing was neither a failure, nor the opening. I mentioned before the Olympics that there will be issues, as with any host city  As mentioned just below, this was a BC, and speciifically Vancouver-centric Olympics.  If you do not understand the Geographical realities of the great distances we have between our regions please travel across our multi-nation state a little more. I&#039;m afraid to say it Dude, but you&#039;ve been living only in Montreal for too long perhaps.  
If Quebec City gets the Olympics, good for them, then they can showcase a QC-oriented opening/closing ceremony (and you know they will) - you will not see Vancouverites windging about too much French because it is not our &#039;nationale&#039; pastime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The closing was neither a failure, nor the opening. I mentioned before the Olympics that there will be issues, as with any host city  As mentioned just below, this was a BC, and speciifically Vancouver-centric Olympics.  If you do not understand the Geographical realities of the great distances we have between our regions please travel across our multi-nation state a little more. I'm afraid to say it Dude, but you've been living only in Montreal for too long perhaps.<br />
If Quebec City gets the Olympics, good for them, then they can showcase a QC-oriented opening/closing ceremony (and you know they will) - you will not see Vancouverites windging about too much French because it is not our 'nationale' pastime.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121613</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your argument is that Vancouver is far from Quebec, then you&#039;re arguing that (a) this was Vancouver&#039;s Olympics, not Canada&#039;s, (b) the only French speakers in this country live in Quebec, and (c) if people are far away, they don&#039;t matter.

My argument is simple: The Vancouver Olympics tried to showcase Canada to the world, and they failed in this very important point during the opening and closing ceremonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your argument is that Vancouver is far from Quebec, then you're arguing that (a) this was Vancouver's Olympics, not Canada's, (b) the only French speakers in this country live in Quebec, and (c) if people are far away, they don't matter.</p>
<p>My argument is simple: The Vancouver Olympics tried to showcase Canada to the world, and they failed in this very important point during the opening and closing ceremonies.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Shebbeare</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121486</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Shebbeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy with Jacques pointing out how our brethren feel across the country, and not in the borders of QC, about the QC Nation.  Francophone schools across Canada are thriving, as not only they are attending them, but also competitive recent immigrants (especially Asian in Vancouver) that want to qualify for top Govt jobs.

Now back to Vancouver -for a few facts that I forgot to mention: 
There are approx. 225k, or let&#039;s say 250k (with bilinguals like me added perhaps to that group?) French speakers in BC...given my previous point of Geography, and the lack of persons to immerse themselves in French with (poor Furlong, he tried, but I know was a bit poor in FR, sorry) it should not be hard to understand by the Games, run by BC-centric organisers have a little more Shatner than Bublé (trying for an oxymoron with a twist of geographical reversal) in the mix.

BC license plates state now, instead of &#039;Beautiful BC&#039;, &#039;The Best Place On Earth&#039; - so Vancouverites and they boys in Victoria have not been holding back on their pride for some time now, so why should they (like they care what a jealous yank journo in Dallas thinks?).  BC, and especially our grandest City, hosted our most fruitful Olympics - respect that with all the good intentions and not as a slight to the Franco-Canadiens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy with Jacques pointing out how our brethren feel across the country, and not in the borders of QC, about the QC Nation.  Francophone schools across Canada are thriving, as not only they are attending them, but also competitive recent immigrants (especially Asian in Vancouver) that want to qualify for top Govt jobs.</p>
<p>Now back to Vancouver -for a few facts that I forgot to mention:<br />
There are approx. 225k, or let's say 250k (with bilinguals like me added perhaps to that group?) French speakers in BC...given my previous point of Geography, and the lack of persons to immerse themselves in French with (poor Furlong, he tried, but I know was a bit poor in FR, sorry) it should not be hard to understand by the Games, run by BC-centric organisers have a little more Shatner than Bublé (trying for an oxymoron with a twist of geographical reversal) in the mix.</p>
<p>BC license plates state now, instead of 'Beautiful BC', 'The Best Place On Earth' - so Vancouverites and they boys in Victoria have not been holding back on their pride for some time now, so why should they (like they care what a jealous yank journo in Dallas thinks?).  BC, and especially our grandest City, hosted our most fruitful Olympics - respect that with all the good intentions and not as a slight to the Franco-Canadiens.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Shebbeare</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-121475</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Shebbeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it, time for a bilingual Vancouverite to contribute to this one: I shall be terse, b/c Master Fagstein knows how verbose I can be.
&lt;strong&gt;BTW&lt;/strong&gt; for those of you who just watched the Vancouver 2010 Olympic&#160;Opening Ceremonies, and heard complaints about the lack of French, please understand that Vancouver is FIVE AND HALF hours by plane from Quebec, and there are very few bilinguals to learn the beautiful language with, as I noticed while growing up. From reading up in La Presse recently [and this great blog] (at least pointing out that our first Canadian Olympic Gold won at home was by the Great Alexandre Bilodeau) it seems as if the journalists were hoping for bilingual levels the equivalent of Ottawa, on the border of the province: they seem to have a complete lack of the importance (as do several above) of geography regarding this issue. Whatever the case, the QC media can try and rain on Vancouver&#039;s great Olympics all it wants, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=46705.html#glowing+review+organizers+cloud+nine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they have New Yorker&#039;s approval&lt;/a&gt; and that is far more impartial. 

Veuillez prendre en note que je ne suis pas francophobe, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/09/24/drp-for-sql-server-in-french-traduction-en-fran-231-ais-du-plan-de-rel-232-ve-part-2.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;je blogue en français&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; et je partage, vers un côté de la famille, les mêmes racines que la majorité ici. Je suis né à Vancouver, et ma soeur Monique et moi aussi,&#160;nous sommes allés à l&#039;école bilingue&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;em&gt;&#160;Je veux que nous améliorons notre société au Québec; non pas seulement pour faire des accommodations raisonnables aux nouvelles arrivées dans la province, mais pour donner du respect à la minorité anglophone qui vit ici depuis des siècles.&#160;Le mal traitement&#160;dont j’ai vécu à la Caisse de Dépôt est un cauchemar absolu, mais ce n’est pas isolé à cette organisation gouvernementale exclusivement, et existent dans&#160; certaines sociétés privés aussi au Québec. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/07/14/i-am-a-champion-for-canada-et-le-qu-233-bec-est-inclus-dans-mon-pays.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Je resterai toujours positif, parce que je suis un Champion pour le Canada&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/07/14/i-am-a-champion-for-canada-et-le-qu-233-bec-est-inclus-dans-mon-pays.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;, and Quebec is included in my country.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#160;&lt;em&gt;Mais, il faut que ces extrémistes ultranationalistes soient mis en règle afin de laisser le Québec se progresser, car à mon avis, c’est leur faute que la province est en déclin tranquille (à cause de deux referendums, et maintenant $47 Milliards perdus&#160;à la CDPQ).&lt;/em&gt;

For the woes of trying to be a Bilingual Anglophone and trying to break into the govt in QC, please read:  http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2010/02/15/first-public-hearing-against-quebec-s-pension-fund-manager-the-beginning-of-proof-multiple-laws-were-violated-before-sabia-took-over.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's it, time for a bilingual Vancouverite to contribute to this one: I shall be terse, b/c Master Fagstein knows how verbose I can be.<br />
<strong>BTW</strong> for those of you who just watched the Vancouver 2010 Olympic&nbsp;Opening Ceremonies, and heard complaints about the lack of French, please understand that Vancouver is FIVE AND HALF hours by plane from Quebec, and there are very few bilinguals to learn the beautiful language with, as I noticed while growing up. From reading up in La Presse recently [and this great blog] (at least pointing out that our first Canadian Olympic Gold won at home was by the Great Alexandre Bilodeau) it seems as if the journalists were hoping for bilingual levels the equivalent of Ottawa, on the border of the province: they seem to have a complete lack of the importance (as do several above) of geography regarding this issue. Whatever the case, the QC media can try and rain on Vancouver's great Olympics all it wants, <a href="http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=46705.html#glowing+review+organizers+cloud+nine" rel="nofollow">they have New Yorker's approval</a> and that is far more impartial. </p>
<p>Veuillez prendre en note que je ne suis pas francophobe, <a href="http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/09/24/drp-for-sql-server-in-french-traduction-en-fran-231-ais-du-plan-de-rel-232-ve-part-2.aspx" rel="nofollow"><em>je blogue en français</em></a><em> et je partage, vers un côté de la famille, les mêmes racines que la majorité ici. Je suis né à Vancouver, et ma soeur Monique et moi aussi,&nbsp;nous sommes allés à l&#39;école bilingue</em>. <em>&nbsp;Je veux que nous améliorons notre société au Québec; non pas seulement pour faire des accommodations raisonnables aux nouvelles arrivées dans la province, mais pour donner du respect à la minorité anglophone qui vit ici depuis des siècles.&nbsp;Le mal traitement&nbsp;dont j’ai vécu à la Caisse de Dépôt est un cauchemar absolu, mais ce n’est pas isolé à cette organisation gouvernementale exclusivement, et existent dans&nbsp; certaines sociétés privés aussi au Québec. </em><a href="http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/07/14/i-am-a-champion-for-canada-et-le-qu-233-bec-est-inclus-dans-mon-pays.aspx" rel="nofollow"><em>Je resterai toujours positif, parce que je suis un Champion pour le Canada</em></a><a href="http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2009/07/14/i-am-a-champion-for-canada-et-le-qu-233-bec-est-inclus-dans-mon-pays.aspx" rel="nofollow"><em>, and Quebec is included in my country.</em></a>&nbsp;<em>Mais, il faut que ces extrémistes ultranationalistes soient mis en règle afin de laisser le Québec se progresser, car à mon avis, c’est leur faute que la province est en déclin tranquille (à cause de deux referendums, et maintenant $47 Milliards perdus&nbsp;à la CDPQ).</em></p>
<p>For the woes of trying to be a Bilingual Anglophone and trying to break into the govt in QC, please read:  <a href="http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2010/02/15/first-public-hearing-against-quebec-s-pension-fund-manager-the-beginning-of-proof-multiple-laws-were-violated-before-sabia-took-over.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.sqlservercentral.com/blogs/hugo/archive/2010/02/15/first-public-hearing-against-quebec-s-pension-fund-manager-the-beginning-of-proof-multiple-laws-were-violated-before-sabia-took-over.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: AngryFrenchGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngryFrenchGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And a single voice pipes up and says &quot;no, it wasn&#039;t, because you didn&#039;t pay enough attention to me&quot;.&quot;

Really?  A SINGLE voice?

What about this?:

Gil Lebreton, Dallas Star-Telegraph

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/02/28/v-print/2003874/in-these-olympics-canadians-only.html

VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- After a spirited torch relay ignited pride in every corner of the country, the Olympic Games began and quickly galvanized the nation.

Flags were everywhere. The country&#039;s national symbol hung from windows and was worn on nearly everyone&#039;s clothing.

Fervent crowds cheered every victory by the host nation.

But enough about the 1936 Berlin Olympics.  
(...)

There is no earthly event that reinforces that notion as well as an Olympic Games. For all of the latter-day Games&#039; inherent commercialism, that ideal persists. I truly believe that.

It persists, despite the overwhelming chauvinism of the past two weeks.

They showed us Canadian Games, all right. And in most cases, nothing but Canadian Games.
Yes, every host nation cheers lustily for its native Olympians. But never in my experience to the extent that we saw here, where the rest of the world&#039;s athletes were little more than drink coasters at the party.

(...)

I&#039;m still mystified that Canada fans were able to grab what seemed to be 98 percent of the tickets at the hockey venue. Olympic crowds have always been more inclusive.

(...)

Canada wanted to hold a party, and the Canadians did. The gold medals only seemed to fuel them.

Team Canada hockey jerseys became the uniform of the streets. Maple leafs were either hanging or on clothing everywhere.

One thing I never saw: a simple flag or shirt with the five Olympic rings. Not anywhere. After 15 Olympics, that was a first.

I didn&#039;t attend the &#039;36 Olympics, but I&#039;ve seen the pictures. Swastikas everywhere.

No political reference is meant, just an Olympic one. What on earth were the Canadians thinking?

An Olympic host is supposed to welcome the world. This one was too busy being (their word) &quot;patriotic.&quot;

&quot;Now you know us, eh?&quot; chief organizer Furlong said.

We thought we did two weeks ago. Now, I&#039;m wondering if Canadians can even recognize themselves.

Nice party. But so 1936.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"And a single voice pipes up and says "no, it wasn't, because you didn't pay enough attention to me"."</p>
<p>Really?  A SINGLE voice?</p>
<p>What about this?:</p>
<p>Gil Lebreton, Dallas Star-Telegraph</p>
<p><a href="http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/02/28/v-print/2003874/in-these-olympics-canadians-only.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/02/28/v-print/2003874/in-these-olympics-canadians-only.html</a></p>
<p>VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- After a spirited torch relay ignited pride in every corner of the country, the Olympic Games began and quickly galvanized the nation.</p>
<p>Flags were everywhere. The country's national symbol hung from windows and was worn on nearly everyone's clothing.</p>
<p>Fervent crowds cheered every victory by the host nation.</p>
<p>But enough about the 1936 Berlin Olympics.<br />
(...)</p>
<p>There is no earthly event that reinforces that notion as well as an Olympic Games. For all of the latter-day Games' inherent commercialism, that ideal persists. I truly believe that.</p>
<p>It persists, despite the overwhelming chauvinism of the past two weeks.</p>
<p>They showed us Canadian Games, all right. And in most cases, nothing but Canadian Games.<br />
Yes, every host nation cheers lustily for its native Olympians. But never in my experience to the extent that we saw here, where the rest of the world's athletes were little more than drink coasters at the party.</p>
<p>(...)</p>
<p>I'm still mystified that Canada fans were able to grab what seemed to be 98 percent of the tickets at the hockey venue. Olympic crowds have always been more inclusive.</p>
<p>(...)</p>
<p>Canada wanted to hold a party, and the Canadians did. The gold medals only seemed to fuel them.</p>
<p>Team Canada hockey jerseys became the uniform of the streets. Maple leafs were either hanging or on clothing everywhere.</p>
<p>One thing I never saw: a simple flag or shirt with the five Olympic rings. Not anywhere. After 15 Olympics, that was a first.</p>
<p>I didn't attend the '36 Olympics, but I've seen the pictures. Swastikas everywhere.</p>
<p>No political reference is meant, just an Olympic one. What on earth were the Canadians thinking?</p>
<p>An Olympic host is supposed to welcome the world. This one was too busy being (their word) "patriotic."</p>
<p>"Now you know us, eh?" chief organizer Furlong said.</p>
<p>We thought we did two weeks ago. Now, I'm wondering if Canadians can even recognize themselves.</p>
<p>Nice party. But so 1936.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because Quebec is whining about something doesn&#039;t make it untrue.

I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about with the &quot;them represent us&quot; thing. The issue is that the ceremonies give people the impression that Canada is an English country with a small French minority, that the Olympics are an English event that provides some translation into French.

The ceremonies made francophone Canadians (whether they live in Quebec or not) feel like they were an &quot;and them&quot;, not an &quot;us&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because Quebec is whining about something doesn't make it untrue.</p>
<p>I don't know what you're talking about with the "them represent us" thing. The issue is that the ceremonies give people the impression that Canada is an English country with a small French minority, that the Olympics are an English event that provides some translation into French.</p>
<p>The ceremonies made francophone Canadians (whether they live in Quebec or not) feel like they were an "and them", not an "us".</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Tod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Tod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me try to come at this from a slightly different tack.   I consider myself a Canadian - in my blood and in my bones.  When I speak of us I mean all of us, all ~34 million.  But you inject an &quot;and them&quot; into it.  You seem to be saying it is ok for them to represent us, but we can&#039;t represent them, they can only represent themselves.  Even in the context of us, if they don&#039;t represent themselves, the us is somehow inaccurate or....
Quebec has a reputation as the spoilt child of Confederation, a province that never saw an action that couldn&#039;t be a slight.  And here we are again.  The party&#039;s over, the guests have gone home and we&#039;re just with family again, looking at each other and and smiling, saying - wow, wasn&#039;t that just about the greatest thing ever?  And a single voice pipes up and says &quot;no, it wasn&#039;t, because you didn&#039;t pay enough attention to me&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me try to come at this from a slightly different tack.   I consider myself a Canadian - in my blood and in my bones.  When I speak of us I mean all of us, all ~34 million.  But you inject an "and them" into it.  You seem to be saying it is ok for them to represent us, but we can't represent them, they can only represent themselves.  Even in the context of us, if they don't represent themselves, the us is somehow inaccurate or....<br />
Quebec has a reputation as the spoilt child of Confederation, a province that never saw an action that couldn't be a slight.  And here we are again.  The party's over, the guests have gone home and we're just with family again, looking at each other and and smiling, saying - wow, wasn't that just about the greatest thing ever?  And a single voice pipes up and says "no, it wasn't, because you didn't pay enough attention to me".</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wickenheiser&#039;s oath was in English. And I couldn&#039;t really consider any of these a &quot;speech&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wickenheiser's oath was in English. And I couldn't really consider any of these a "speech".</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Governor General declared the games open exclusively in French. Hayley Wickenheiser took the athlete&#039;s oath exclusively in French.  And Michel Verreault, took the judge&#039;s oath, also, just in French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Governor General declared the games open exclusively in French. Hayley Wickenheiser took the athlete's oath exclusively in French.  And Michel Verreault, took the judge's oath, also, just in French.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than Jacques Rogge and one of the announcers, who spoke in French during the ceremonies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than Jacques Rogge and one of the announcers, who spoke in French during the ceremonies?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Tod</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-120785</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Tod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becaues it is all part and parcel of the same thing.  A bigger thing.  Something that wasn&#039;t just about Quebec.  Or PEI.  Or Newfoundland and Labrador.  Or any province, or ethnicity or language or whatever the defining characteristic that was missing from these ceremonies that seems to have been so offensive (because it wasn&#039;t language, there was plenty of French spoken throughout the Games and Ceremonies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becaues it is all part and parcel of the same thing.  A bigger thing.  Something that wasn't just about Quebec.  Or PEI.  Or Newfoundland and Labrador.  Or any province, or ethnicity or language or whatever the defining characteristic that was missing from these ceremonies that seems to have been so offensive (because it wasn't language, there was plenty of French spoken throughout the Games and Ceremonies).</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-120686</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does taking issue with the ceremonies prevent anyone from taking pride in Canadian athletes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does taking issue with the ceremonies prevent anyone from taking pride in Canadian athletes?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Tod</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-120679</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Tod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought - instead of harrumphing over the lack of French (francophones, French Canadians, Quebec, Quebecers, Quebecois) in representing the fabric of Canada at the Games and Ceremonies, why not take pride in the fact that every Canadian athlete there, was doing a bang-up job of representing us all?  As long as there was one Canadian there to raise the Maple Leaf we were all there, as Canadians, whether we come from Quebec or Alberta or PEI.  Sometimes, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a thought - instead of harrumphing over the lack of French (francophones, French Canadians, Quebec, Quebecers, Quebecois) in representing the fabric of Canada at the Games and Ceremonies, why not take pride in the fact that every Canadian athlete there, was doing a bang-up job of representing us all?  As long as there was one Canadian there to raise the Maple Leaf we were all there, as Canadians, whether we come from Quebec or Alberta or PEI.  Sometimes, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Robichaud</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/03/01/vanoc-disappointed-me/comment-page-1/#comment-120050</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Robichaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Québec is NOT a French province in an English Canada.
There are about 550 000 Francophones in Ontario, part of the 1 million people that speak both official languages in this province.  In fact, Francophones form the majority in many Ontario towns (ex: 96% of 6000 in Hearst / 78% of 13,000 in West Nipissing, just to name a few). Even our larger cities have many Francophones (ex: 17% of 800,000 in Ottawa / 30% of 155,000 in Sudbury).
Francophones represent over 33% of New Brunswick&#039;s population; they call themselves &quot;Acadiens&quot; but are French-speaking nonetheless.
Sorry about the demographics lesson, but here&#039;s my point: It would be beneficial for all Francophones in Canada if the majority of our cousins in Québec knew the facts and stopped describing Québec as a nation.

In response to other posts:
Why is French an official language? Because we are founding members of Canada, we developed many parts of this country, but most importantly, we are still here and still contributing to the development of this awesome country. Je suis Franco-ontarien de descendance acadienne, et j&#039;en suis fier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Québec is NOT a French province in an English Canada.<br />
There are about 550 000 Francophones in Ontario, part of the 1 million people that speak both official languages in this province.  In fact, Francophones form the majority in many Ontario towns (ex: 96% of 6000 in Hearst / 78% of 13,000 in West Nipissing, just to name a few). Even our larger cities have many Francophones (ex: 17% of 800,000 in Ottawa / 30% of 155,000 in Sudbury).<br />
Francophones represent over 33% of New Brunswick's population; they call themselves "Acadiens" but are French-speaking nonetheless.<br />
Sorry about the demographics lesson, but here's my point: It would be beneficial for all Francophones in Canada if the majority of our cousins in Québec knew the facts and stopped describing Québec as a nation.</p>
<p>In response to other posts:<br />
Why is French an official language? Because we are founding members of Canada, we developed many parts of this country, but most importantly, we are still here and still contributing to the development of this awesome country. Je suis Franco-ontarien de descendance acadienne, et j'en suis fier.</p>
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