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		<title>By: Ray Lanier</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-560034</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Lanier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a Summer Camp in Northern Vermont and like many Americas south of Canada we like to get the CBC/Canadian perspective on many issues, but with CBMT going digital and moving from channel 6 to channel 21 we&#039;ve lost access to CBC, we were never able to receive CBMT-3 (Ch. 50). We however receive Sherbrooke stations CHLT-DT (Ch. 7/TVA), CKSH-DT (Ch. 9/SRC), CKMI-DT (Ch. 11/Multichannel/Global), CIVS-DT (Ch. 24/TQ). It would be great if CBC would approve multichannel transmission and transmit over CKSH-DT and allow us south of the boarder to receive OTA some of the Canadian English programs we enjoyed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Summer Camp in Northern Vermont and like many Americas south of Canada we like to get the CBC/Canadian perspective on many issues, but with CBMT going digital and moving from channel 6 to channel 21 we've lost access to CBC, we were never able to receive CBMT-3 (Ch. 50). We however receive Sherbrooke stations CHLT-DT (Ch. 7/TVA), CKSH-DT (Ch. 9/SRC), CKMI-DT (Ch. 11/Multichannel/Global), CIVS-DT (Ch. 24/TQ). It would be great if CBC would approve multichannel transmission and transmit over CKSH-DT and allow us south of the boarder to receive OTA some of the Canadian English programs we enjoyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Wadden</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-558201</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Wadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marlene: Have you not looked into the LTSS program offered by Shaw Direct satellite  (formerly known as Star Choice) As part of the CRTC conditions allowing them to buy Global you may be eligible to get FREE
 (hardware and installation included ) very basic standard definition service ( not HD ) of what were formerly your local OTA channels. Check out the following links :

http://www.shawdirect.ca/promotions/english/digitaltransition/default.asp?WT.mc_id=DTV
and also

http://freeat33.com/free-television-with-shaw-canada-ltss/

As it sounds like you live in rural area outside of Moncton, you&#039;re likely a prime candidate for this program.
Shaw&#039;s web site is a little cryptic as what LTSS is all about, but if you Google it further you&#039;ll see lots + lots of people have benefited from it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlene: Have you not looked into the LTSS program offered by Shaw Direct satellite  (formerly known as Star Choice) As part of the CRTC conditions allowing them to buy Global you may be eligible to get FREE<br />
 (hardware and installation included ) very basic standard definition service ( not HD ) of what were formerly your local OTA channels. Check out the following links :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shawdirect.ca/promotions/english/digitaltransition/default.asp?WT.mc_id=DTV" rel="nofollow">http://www.shawdirect.ca/promotions/english/digitaltransition/default.asp?WT.mc_id=DTV</a><br />
and also</p>
<p><a href="http://freeat33.com/free-television-with-shaw-canada-ltss/" rel="nofollow">http://freeat33.com/free-television-with-shaw-canada-ltss/</a></p>
<p>As it sounds like you live in rural area outside of Moncton, you're likely a prime candidate for this program.<br />
Shaw's web site is a little cryptic as what LTSS is all about, but if you Google it further you'll see lots + lots of people have benefited from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-558146</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We currently receive CBC French channel and Global OTA. My question, if CBC Saint John has been shut down, why is the CBC French channel still OTA?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Moncton is an originating station for Radio-Canada, so its (digital) transmitter stays running. Saint John and Moncton are not originating stations for CBC, so their (analog) transmitters were shut down. There&#039;s CBC Fredericton, CBC Charlottetown and CBC Halifax as the closest over-the-air transmitters. Beyond that, you&#039;re either getting cable/satellite or watching whatever you can online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We currently receive CBC French channel and Global OTA. My question, if CBC Saint John has been shut down, why is the CBC French channel still OTA?</p></blockquote>
<p>Moncton is an originating station for Radio-Canada, so its (digital) transmitter stays running. Saint John and Moncton are not originating stations for CBC, so their (analog) transmitters were shut down. There's CBC Fredericton, CBC Charlottetown and CBC Halifax as the closest over-the-air transmitters. Beyond that, you're either getting cable/satellite or watching whatever you can online.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlene Robertson</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-558118</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlene Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live 20 minutes outside of Moncton NB, lost CBC two years ago and today lost ATV/CTV. We currently receive CBC French channel and Global OTA. My question, if CBC Saint John has been shut down, why is the CBC French channel still OTA?  Any solutions to my TV viewing other than the cable companies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live 20 minutes outside of Moncton NB, lost CBC two years ago and today lost ATV/CTV. We currently receive CBC French channel and Global OTA. My question, if CBC Saint John has been shut down, why is the CBC French channel still OTA?  Any solutions to my TV viewing other than the cable companies?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-535623</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tobin.  I have been lurking on a few OTA forums for a number of months now, but haven&#039;t yet gotten serious toward setting something up.  I was intrigued by your post (which I realize is now a bit old) as I also live in Nanaimo.  I didn&#039;t think it likely I would be able to get anywhere near nine clear channels OTA.  Do you mind telling me approximately where you live in town?  I am in the Diver Lake area.  FYI, I found your post while searching for information regarding Shaw&#039;s LTSS program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tobin.  I have been lurking on a few OTA forums for a number of months now, but haven't yet gotten serious toward setting something up.  I was intrigued by your post (which I realize is now a bit old) as I also live in Nanaimo.  I didn't think it likely I would be able to get anywhere near nine clear channels OTA.  Do you mind telling me approximately where you live in town?  I am in the Diver Lake area.  FYI, I found your post while searching for information regarding Shaw's LTSS program.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-534140</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live at about 10 miles outside of Halifax and I lost access to ATV and Global last year. Now I have lost the french channel as well. That leaves me with only CBC which is only good on a good weather day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live at about 10 miles outside of Halifax and I lost access to ATV and Global last year. Now I have lost the french channel as well. That leaves me with only CBC which is only good on a good weather day.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-525768</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your map indicates the loss of SRC in Lethbridge, Alberta. We also lost our powerful CBC transmitter. It&#039;s sad, but eventually all ota tv is done, I think. For now I was able to get Shaw&#039;s LTSS satellite service to replace my cbc. The installer swore up and down I&#039;d want it for other signals, too, but I showed him how good digital OTA is and he understood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your map indicates the loss of SRC in Lethbridge, Alberta. We also lost our powerful CBC transmitter. It's sad, but eventually all ota tv is done, I think. For now I was able to get Shaw's LTSS satellite service to replace my cbc. The installer swore up and down I'd want it for other signals, too, but I showed him how good digital OTA is and he understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobin</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-515281</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Nanaimo and get 9 HD OTA channels from Vancouver. OTA is the way to go. More and more people I know are making the switch and cutting the cord.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Nanaimo and get 9 HD OTA channels from Vancouver. OTA is the way to go. More and more people I know are making the switch and cutting the cord.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-514226</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;it forced people to subscribe to services such as cable and satillite which the CBC then gets paid for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The CBC doesn&#039;t get paid for people&#039;s cable/satellite subscriptions, unless you count subscription fees for CBC News Network and RDI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it forced people to subscribe to services such as cable and satillite which the CBC then gets paid for.</p></blockquote>
<p>The CBC doesn't get paid for people's cable/satellite subscriptions, unless you count subscription fees for CBC News Network and RDI.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Sobieniak</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-514222</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Sobieniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Digital over-the-air television has been a complete screw-the-consumer so they move to cable pile of bull crap.&quot;

That&#039;s pretty much one way to view it.  That sort of &quot;portability&quot; that use to be there in the past is long gone for the days when I would be watching stations clearly while my dad ran his Kenworth semi truck down the highways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Digital over-the-air television has been a complete screw-the-consumer so they move to cable pile of bull crap."</p>
<p>That's pretty much one way to view it.  That sort of "portability" that use to be there in the past is long gone for the days when I would be watching stations clearly while my dad ran his Kenworth semi truck down the highways.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Sobieniak</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-514221</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Sobieniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s these areas I bother to care about.   It just doesn&#039;t help anyone unless they bother to install a dish at that cabin and hope nobody steals it outside the vacation period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's these areas I bother to care about.   It just doesn't help anyone unless they bother to install a dish at that cabin and hope nobody steals it outside the vacation period.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Sobieniak</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-514220</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Sobieniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It&#039;s pretty much a foregone conclusion here. Offering OTA service is no longer profitable, and when you consider that a significant part of the Canadian broadcast business is owned by a very few companies, there is little incentive for them to maintain money losing services. There is no competitive issues in play.&quot;

See what happens when you shut us Americans out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It's pretty much a foregone conclusion here. Offering OTA service is no longer profitable, and when you consider that a significant part of the Canadian broadcast business is owned by a very few companies, there is little incentive for them to maintain money losing services. There is no competitive issues in play."</p>
<p>See what happens when you shut us Americans out!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-513635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &quot;As more transmitters shut down, demand for over-the-air television will continue to decrease&quot;

Of course demand for something is going to decrease if one can no longer get it. This is the only way the CBC can grab some cash back from it&#039;s viewers because (and I believe the % is much much higher than the 2% claimed) it forced people to subscribe to services such as cable and satillite which the CBC then gets paid for. 

&quot;Death throws for the CBC&quot;

Also the CBC ratings have been slowly declining for years as they continue to loose bids to carry relevent programming and have lost most of the one thing they were good at (Sports). By shutting down these transmitters I can pretty much guarantee that HNIC will be canceled before the 2014 - 2015 season as the only reason the NHL even considers them is because they were the only broadcaster that could transmitt all game awarded to every house in Canada regardless of if they had a subscription based service or not. If revenue from HNIC goes I can not see the CBC surviving much past that point.

So by not turning those analog transmitters digital I feel the CBC has signed its own demise as anything relevent to Canadians, which is a shame to a once proudly Canadian institution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: "As more transmitters shut down, demand for over-the-air television will continue to decrease"</p>
<p>Of course demand for something is going to decrease if one can no longer get it. This is the only way the CBC can grab some cash back from it's viewers because (and I believe the % is much much higher than the 2% claimed) it forced people to subscribe to services such as cable and satillite which the CBC then gets paid for. </p>
<p>"Death throws for the CBC"</p>
<p>Also the CBC ratings have been slowly declining for years as they continue to loose bids to carry relevent programming and have lost most of the one thing they were good at (Sports). By shutting down these transmitters I can pretty much guarantee that HNIC will be canceled before the 2014 - 2015 season as the only reason the NHL even considers them is because they were the only broadcaster that could transmitt all game awarded to every house in Canada regardless of if they had a subscription based service or not. If revenue from HNIC goes I can not see the CBC surviving much past that point.</p>
<p>So by not turning those analog transmitters digital I feel the CBC has signed its own demise as anything relevent to Canadians, which is a shame to a once proudly Canadian institution.</p>
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		<title>By: ATSC</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-512390</link>
		<dc:creator>ATSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 02:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1 - Make sure you have a good TV antenna. And make sure that the antenna is exposed towards the TV transmitters on Mont-Royal. 

2 - Locate the Signal Meter in your TV. Use it to help you point or place the antenna in a sweet spot that will allow you to get a strong signal.

3 - You may need a pixel drop compensator if you are in a difficult position. Look at these items. Read up on what they do.
     http://overtheair.saveandreplay.com/Distribution_amps.asp

4 - Here is also a site that offers good selection of TV antennas. Use it to compare antennas. Read the data specs on each one. This will help you to figure out a good model to buy. Or not buy. Check prices over at amazon.ca as well. Shop around. 
     http://www.saveandreplay.com

5 - Ask around for what other people are using for their OTA set-up.

6 - You can install a outdoor antenna indoors. You can buy a small TV antenna tri-pod to mount the antenna indoors next to a window. Or mount the antenna on a wall next to a window.

7 - Also, as was mentioned, you might have a overload. That means that the signal is way too strong for your TV&#039;s tuner. So, perhaps a more low end TV antenna set up would be best. Try moving your current TV antenna away from a window. See how the signal meter reacts. Also, don&#039;t place an antenna close to electrical devices. It can pick up the signal noise off these devices.

8 - Can you post a link of the current TV antenna you are using?

9 - Don&#039;t forget that most TV channels in Montreal are broadcasting on UHF. So, you need a antenna that can handle UHF. Only CFCF and CFTM are on VHF now. CBMT (CBC) is actually transmitting on UHF channel 21, but re-maps to 6.1 in order to associate to it&#039;s old analog channel number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 - Make sure you have a good TV antenna. And make sure that the antenna is exposed towards the TV transmitters on Mont-Royal. </p>
<p>2 - Locate the Signal Meter in your TV. Use it to help you point or place the antenna in a sweet spot that will allow you to get a strong signal.</p>
<p>3 - You may need a pixel drop compensator if you are in a difficult position. Look at these items. Read up on what they do.<br />
     <a href="http://overtheair.saveandreplay.com/Distribution_amps.asp" rel="nofollow">http://overtheair.saveandreplay.com/Distribution_amps.asp</a></p>
<p>4 - Here is also a site that offers good selection of TV antennas. Use it to compare antennas. Read the data specs on each one. This will help you to figure out a good model to buy. Or not buy. Check prices over at amazon.ca as well. Shop around.<br />
     <a href="http://www.saveandreplay.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveandreplay.com</a></p>
<p>5 - Ask around for what other people are using for their OTA set-up.</p>
<p>6 - You can install a outdoor antenna indoors. You can buy a small TV antenna tri-pod to mount the antenna indoors next to a window. Or mount the antenna on a wall next to a window.</p>
<p>7 - Also, as was mentioned, you might have a overload. That means that the signal is way too strong for your TV's tuner. So, perhaps a more low end TV antenna set up would be best. Try moving your current TV antenna away from a window. See how the signal meter reacts. Also, don't place an antenna close to electrical devices. It can pick up the signal noise off these devices.</p>
<p>8 - Can you post a link of the current TV antenna you are using?</p>
<p>9 - Don't forget that most TV channels in Montreal are broadcasting on UHF. So, you need a antenna that can handle UHF. Only CFCF and CFTM are on VHF now. CBMT (CBC) is actually transmitting on UHF channel 21, but re-maps to 6.1 in order to associate to it's old analog channel number.</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-512231</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, in Outremont in downtown Montreal we can barely receive any digital channels over the air. CBC channel 6 is the worst sinner in this department. But every channel cuts out, stutters, goes blank, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you&#039;re having problems receiving CBC television from there, it&#039;s not the fault of the transmitter, which is putting out more than 100,000 watts. Maybe your TV is being overloaded? (Try disconnecting the antenna and see if it still works.) Or maybe the TV&#039;s tuner is faulty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, in Outremont in downtown Montreal we can barely receive any digital channels over the air. CBC channel 6 is the worst sinner in this department. But every channel cuts out, stutters, goes blank, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you're having problems receiving CBC television from there, it's not the fault of the transmitter, which is putting out more than 100,000 watts. Maybe your TV is being overloaded? (Try disconnecting the antenna and see if it still works.) Or maybe the TV's tuner is faulty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie james</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, in Outremont in downtown Montreal we can barely receive any digital channels over the air. CBC channel 6 is the worst sinner in this department. But every channel cuts out, stutters, goes blank, etc.

Digital over-the-air television has been a complete screw-the-consumer so they move to cable pile of bull crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in Outremont in downtown Montreal we can barely receive any digital channels over the air. CBC channel 6 is the worst sinner in this department. But every channel cuts out, stutters, goes blank, etc.</p>
<p>Digital over-the-air television has been a complete screw-the-consumer so they move to cable pile of bull crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-512208</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and in Vancouver (and most major centers) OTA isn&#039;t going away, at least not for the medium term.  

What isn&#039;t framed here is what percentage of the population will lose out in this deal.  The numbers are really, really small here, the transmitters in many cases were only addressing a few hundred people, and many of them have alternate means to view TV (dishes being the most common).  When the numbers get really worked out, I suspect we are looking at something that MIGHT touch 10-20,000 people, and most of them could easy be moved forward to the late 20th century and set up with alternate reception means.

Heck, CBC could do a deal with Bell and Shaw to have at least 1 CBC channel always come up for free on their sat systems, even if a receiver is not completely activated.  End of issue for almost everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and in Vancouver (and most major centers) OTA isn't going away, at least not for the medium term.  </p>
<p>What isn't framed here is what percentage of the population will lose out in this deal.  The numbers are really, really small here, the transmitters in many cases were only addressing a few hundred people, and many of them have alternate means to view TV (dishes being the most common).  When the numbers get really worked out, I suspect we are looking at something that MIGHT touch 10-20,000 people, and most of them could easy be moved forward to the late 20th century and set up with alternate reception means.</p>
<p>Heck, CBC could do a deal with Bell and Shaw to have at least 1 CBC channel always come up for free on their sat systems, even if a receiver is not completely activated.  End of issue for almost everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-512057</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty much a foregone conclusion here.  Offering OTA service is no longer profitable, and when you consider that a significant part of the Canadian broadcast business is owned by a very few companies, there is little incentive for them to maintain money losing services.  There is no competitive issues in play.

Moreover, as you noted, 90% of people have cable, sat, or IPTV services in Canada, and the availability of at least one of those services is effectively 100% of the population or just about.  You can almost always get some sort of sat TV, even in the very far north - just need a much bigger dish to amplify the signal.

It should also be said that OTA is a business model swimming against the current:  Even with &quot;local content matters&quot; fees on your cable bill, the reality is that paying to broadcast OTA is nowhere near as profitable as getting paid to hand a signal to a distributor cable company to sell.  With forced coverage, it pretty much clears the deck when it comes to making money.  Simply put, eliminating most of the broadcast infrastructure, while maintaining direct contact with 90%+ of your viewers is a win, no matter what.

Where I am living now I have wonderful IP TV service, super HD, and many, many channels to choose from.  Can you guess that I am not in Canada anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's pretty much a foregone conclusion here.  Offering OTA service is no longer profitable, and when you consider that a significant part of the Canadian broadcast business is owned by a very few companies, there is little incentive for them to maintain money losing services.  There is no competitive issues in play.</p>
<p>Moreover, as you noted, 90% of people have cable, sat, or IPTV services in Canada, and the availability of at least one of those services is effectively 100% of the population or just about.  You can almost always get some sort of sat TV, even in the very far north - just need a much bigger dish to amplify the signal.</p>
<p>It should also be said that OTA is a business model swimming against the current:  Even with "local content matters" fees on your cable bill, the reality is that paying to broadcast OTA is nowhere near as profitable as getting paid to hand a signal to a distributor cable company to sell.  With forced coverage, it pretty much clears the deck when it comes to making money.  Simply put, eliminating most of the broadcast infrastructure, while maintaining direct contact with 90%+ of your viewers is a win, no matter what.</p>
<p>Where I am living now I have wonderful IP TV service, super HD, and many, many channels to choose from.  Can you guess that I am not in Canada anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lee</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/08/01/over-the-air-tv-shutdown/comment-page-1/#comment-511950</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And how will the cottage/cabin/at-the-lake people feel when they lose analogue TV this year?
Has there been a cry out from summer places?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how will the cottage/cabin/at-the-lake people feel when they lose analogue TV this year?<br />
Has there been a cry out from summer places?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And over 10 percent of viewers in the  Vancouver area are using OTA (over-the-air).  Why?  Age, Inertia, dreadful Shaw service, not much better Telus, etc.

And costs.  They got their digital converters for old sets, or have newer sets with digital built in.
And the aging population don&#039;t watch as much TV as they used to.  Teens never do.

I am waiting for the Conservative governments offer of reception inplants to all citizens, purely for entertainment, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And over 10 percent of viewers in the  Vancouver area are using OTA (over-the-air).  Why?  Age, Inertia, dreadful Shaw service, not much better Telus, etc.</p>
<p>And costs.  They got their digital converters for old sets, or have newer sets with digital built in.<br />
And the aging population don't watch as much TV as they used to.  Teens never do.</p>
<p>I am waiting for the Conservative governments offer of reception inplants to all citizens, purely for entertainment, of course.</p>
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