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		<title>RadCan needs geography lessons</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/09/26/radcan-needs-geography-lessons/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radio-Canada reports on a protest today against extending Cavendish Boulevard to Toupin, but apparently confuses it with the extension of Cavendish into Cote-Saint-Luc. It's a simple mistake to make, and almost understandable, but it's still not what they're protesting. Related Posts The Toupin Blvd. &#8220;solution&#8221; Making the case for a quieter Toupin Blvd. The other [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radio-Canada <a href="http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2007/09/26/002-Cavendish-Cote-St-Luc.shtml">reports on a protest today</a> against <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/10/the-other-cavendish-extension/">extending Cavendish Boulevard to Toupin</a>, but apparently confuses it with the <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/tag/cavendish-extension">extension of Cavendish into Cote-Saint-Luc</a>.</p>
<p>It's a simple mistake to make, and almost understandable, but it's still not what they're protesting.<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/28/the-toupin-blvd-solution/' title='The Toupin Blvd. &#8220;solution&#8221;'>The Toupin Blvd. &#8220;solution&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/10/20/making-the-case-for-a-quieter-toupin-blvd/' title='Making the case for a quieter Toupin Blvd.'>Making the case for a quieter Toupin Blvd.</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/10/the-other-cavendish-extension/' title='The other Cavendish extension'>The other Cavendish extension</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/01/10/calgary-moves-on-map/' title='Strong winds out west'>Strong winds out west</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/04/26/toupin-blvd-plan/' title='The Toupin Blvd. plan'>The Toupin Blvd. plan</a></li>
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		<title>It makes sense, so let&#8217;s not do it</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/05/31/it-makes-sense-so-lets-not-do-it/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cote-St-Luc folks are outraged (OUTRAGED!) that Montreal's transportation plan pushes back the Cavendish Extension for another 10 years. It's hard to see why there isn't more movement on this issue. It's one of those rare ones that seems to unite everyone: Public transit users whose trips to western Ville-Saint-Laurent could be shortened by up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cote-St-Luc folks are outraged (<a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=d814c91a-60f7-44cc-a90e-d5b9d80c2724">OUTRAGED!</a>) that Montreal's transportation plan pushes back the Cavendish Extension for another 10 years.</p>
<p>It's hard to see why there isn't more movement on this issue. It's one of those rare ones that seems to unite everyone: Public transit users whose trips to western Ville-Saint-Laurent could be shortened by up to 45 minutes, car travellers who want to avoid the Decarie circle, local businesses and the Cavendish Mall who want the extra customers, and CSL residents who want a quick path to IKEA.</p>
<p>So what's the hold-up?<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/09/26/radcan-needs-geography-lessons/' title='RadCan needs geography lessons'>RadCan needs geography lessons</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/05/17/all-aboard-the-dream-train/' title='All aboard the dream train'>All aboard the dream train</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/03/17/what-are-you-doing-driving-on-my-street/' title='What are you doing driving on my street?'>What are you doing driving on my street?</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/02/28/west-islanders-are-never-happy/' title='West Islanders are never happy'>West Islanders are never happy</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/14/montreal-west-barrier/' title='The barrier stays'>The barrier stays</a></li>
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		<title>All aboard the dream train</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/05/17/all-aboard-the-dream-train/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 01:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The city today released its 155-page transportation plan (PDF), which focuses on public transit, cycling and other green initiatives. Heck, even the report itself is green, so you know they mean business. The report includes some very common-sense ideas: Extending the blue line metro East to Pie-IX and then Anjou, extending the orange line northwest [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city today released its <a href="http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/LIBRAIRIE_FR/DOCUMENTS/PLAN_DE_TRANSPORT.PDF">155-page transportation plan</a> (PDF), which focuses on public transit, cycling and other green initiatives. Heck, even the report itself is green, so you know they mean business.</p>
<p>The report includes some very common-sense ideas: Extending the blue line metro East to Pie-IX and then Anjou, extending the orange line northwest to the Bois-Franc train station, connecting bicycle paths across the island, adding bicycle parking and adding express buses and reserved bus lanes to major arteries.</p>
<p>But just in case you're hopeful that any of these initiatives will see the light of day, remember that it also includes a promise to finish the Cavendish Extension. Yeah.</p>
<p>As ambitious as the plan is, it's not as crazy as tramway fetishists <a href="http://www.projetmontreal.org/documents/pdf/2007-02-03_reseau_Nouveau_Tramway_plans.pdf">Projet Montréal's plan</a> (PDF), which proposes putting tramways on the highway and all the way out to Ile Bizard. (Well, <a href="http://floor12.blogspot.com/2007/05/montreal-tramway.html">some people at least think it's worth the trouble</a>)</p>
<p>Hidden in the sea of Montreal's plan is another common-sense idea that I think would make a huge impact toward getting people to use public transit, especially in suburbs: Make express buses run all day. It works brilliantly for the 211, why not have something similar for the other suburbs?<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/11/01/metro-alan-desousa-error/' title='Metro screws up, but it&#8217;s just the wrong name'>Metro screws up, but it&#8217;s just the wrong name</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/09/20/il-fait-chaud-dans-lmetr/' title='Tout l&#8217;monde transpire jusqu&#8217;aux orteils'>Tout l&#8217;monde transpire jusqu&#8217;aux orteils</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/09/18/bus-driver-shares-seat/' title='Front-seat driver'>Front-seat driver</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/04/22/plastic-bags-1-year-later/' title='The plastic bag drought one year later'>The plastic bag drought one year later</a></li>
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		<title>What are you doing driving on my street?</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/03/17/what-are-you-doing-driving-on-my-street/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another day, another group of angry rich homeowners who want nobody to use their streets but them. James Shaw Street in Beaconsfield, the Cavendish extension, and now residents of Montreal West are upset because one of their roads is being used by people who are not them. And their arguments just don't hold water. Here's [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another day, another group of angry rich homeowners who want nobody to use their streets but them.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/?p=86">James Shaw Street</a> in Beaconsfield, the Cavendish extension, and now residents of Montreal West are upset because one of their roads is being used by people who are not them. And their arguments just don't hold water.</p>
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<a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=30219d69-ccbc-4393-8ecd-ed397dcbf05d">Here's the story</a>: Montreal West put up concrete barriers at <a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=Chemin+Broughton+and+Ave+Easton,+Montr%C3%A9al,+Quebec,+Canada&amp;sll=45.450573,-73.649297&amp;sspn=0.006127,0.021436&amp;layer=&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;z=16&amp;ll=45.449444,-73.648481&amp;spn=0.006127,0.021436&amp;t=h&amp;om=1">Broughton Rd. and Easton Ave.</a> to prevent traffic from crossing their border with Ville St. Pierre. According to the MtlWesters, it's because people are using Devil's Hill (Broughton/rue des Erables, depending on what city you're in) as a shortcut to Highway 20. According to the VSPers, it's nothing but class warfare, separating the less affluent Lachine residents from the rich homes that are literally at the top of the hill.</p>
<p>A quick look at the area and it's hard not to take Ville St. Pierre's side on this. First of all, while going through this area does indeed lead to Highway 20 via Norman street, I'd hardly call it a shortcut. First you have to get to Broughton, which is difficult because the intersection of Broughton and Westminster is now a raised sidewalk (the red mark in the map below). Then you have to navigate the forced turns and one-way streets designed to make driving through these parts as difficult as possible.</p>
<p><a title="Montreal West traffic barrier" href="http://blog.fagstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mtlwestbarrier.png"><img src="http://blog.fagstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mtlwestbarrier.thumbnail.png" alt="Montreal West traffic barrier" /></a></p>
<p>Finally, even if you make it through to VSP, you immediately hit another forced turn (on weekdays) from which there is no escape but back where you came from.</p>
<p>The only solution is to take Avon Rd. (which everyone else calls St. Jacques) down to Milton and then through to Norman St. This route isn't blocked by MtlWest's plan, because it doesn't go through their residential streets. It's also silly, since just continuing down Avon/St. Jacques leads you straight to the highway through the other part of VSP.</p>
<p>Today, <a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=29df672d-74d3-4a89-a740-b43648122179&amp;k=80037">with the barrier out of the way</a>, I passed by that area to see what the traffic was like during the afternoon rush-hour. It was non-existent. Anyone who knows the area knows you can't get to the highway for the reasons listed above, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to bother wasting their time trying to find a shortcut.</p>
<p>So giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they're not hallucinating anything, how is it that cars are taking this route? I have a few suggestions:</p>
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<li>Bad signage. Coming down Westminster or through other streets in that area, you see a sign that reads "Aucun acces autoroute 20 / No access highway 20 / via Ainslie ou/or Easton". To someone not intimately familiar with Montreal West's geography, the sign is meaningless. Wouldn't it be simpler just to tell people where the highway is? If they don't follow that instruction, it's their own fault for getting lost.</li>
<li>Bad intersection. The corner of Avon (St. Jacques) and Westminster is a 5-way intersection. Someone heading west on St. Jacques sees signs for "Westminster S", "Avon", "Brynmor", "Easton" and "Recreation" (not a street name, but it looks like one). Easton, the bad street that leads into this secluded paradise, sits right next to Avon, the good street that leads into Highway 20. Because the two are parallel and right next to each other, drivers are easily confused about which leads to the highway. Especially coming down Westminster, you're told to turn right, but there are two rights and despite their best attempts at signage, it's not intuitive which is the correct one.</li>
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<p><img src="http://blog.fagstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/5way.png" alt="5-way intersection" /></p>
<p>But hey, I'm not a civil planner, what do I know? Keep using our roads and not allowing us to use yours. Keep driving by my apartment at all hours of the night and then yelling at me when I so much as sneeze in your neighbourhood.</p>
<p>Montreal West is already surrounded on three sides by railway tracks. Aren't they gated enough?</p>
<p>P.S. To Lachine mayor Claude Dauphin, who asked: "Where else in Canada have you heard of a municipality that erects barricades to cut itself off from its neighbours?"  -- have you never driven down Acadie Blvd.?<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/10/the-other-cavendish-extension/' title='The other Cavendish extension'>The other Cavendish extension</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/14/montreal-west-barrier/' title='The barrier stays'>The barrier stays</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/06/06/great-wall-of-montreal-west-goes-back-up/' title='Great Wall of Montreal West goes back up'>Great Wall of Montreal West goes back up</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/02/28/west-islanders-are-never-happy/' title='West Islanders are never happy'>West Islanders are never happy</a></li>
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		<title>West Islanders are never happy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Street planning always seems to have winners and losers. West Islanders who are tired of being stuck in rush-hour traffic are constantly complaining about the missing but long-promised Cavendish extension which would link Ville Saint-Laurent with Cote Saint-Luc, N.D.G., Hampstead and Montreal West. And I'm sure some of these same people are bemoaning an extension [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Street planning always seems to have winners and losers. West Islanders who are tired of being stuck in rush-hour traffic are <a href="http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/montreal/story.html?id=d5e5fc89-682a-4944-9827-f7332995ff6e&amp;k=50279">constantly complaining</a> about the missing but long-promised <a href="http://cotestluc-hampstead-mtlouest.ville.montreal.qc.ca/en/office/2006-10-30_cavendish_extention_en.asp">Cavendish extension</a> which would link Ville Saint-Laurent with Cote Saint-Luc, N.D.G., Hampstead and Montreal West.</p>
<p>And I'm sure some of these same people are bemoaning an extension of their own. This Week <a href="http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-79483-City-votes-for-the-open-road.html">Beaconsfield voted</a> to open up <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=james+shaw+street+beaconsfield+quebec&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=56.462693,114.257813&amp;layer=&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;z=15&amp;ll=45.43481,-73.885331&amp;spn=0.012377,0.041971&amp;t=h&amp;om=1">James Shaw Street</a> (look at all those swimming pools!) to Highway 40 near the Chemin Sainte-Marie exit. The street's residents are unhappy of course because it means more traffic for their protected suburban enclave.</p>
<p>It's kind of silly how cities manipulate traffic flow to apease residents' concerns, even to the point of nonsense.</p>
<p>Take Jacques-Bizard Boulevard for example. One might think that "Boulevard" would mean a lot of vehicular traffic. And a quick look at the street shows it has enough space for a good five lanes of traffic. A look at the map would show that the boulevard leads to a bridge to Ile Bizard on one end, and a medium-traffic street with a blank field beside it which is clearly designed for future expansion into more lanes.</p>
<p>Despite this, people bought houses on Jacques-Bizard Boulevard in Pierrefonds, and its extension Sommerset St. in Dollard des Ormeaux. Then, when the traffic coming off the bridge from Ile Bizard started driving up their wide boulevard, they complained to the city.</p>
<p>My response would probably have been something along the lines of "you know what you were getting into when you bought the place", but clearly I don't know how to deal with homeowners. Instead, the city forced all traffic to turn left or right onto Pierrefonds Boulevard, adding to the already clogged St. John's and St. Charles thoroughfares.</p>
<p>I wonder: what would traffic be like in this city if homeowners weren't so greedy?<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/09/26/radcan-needs-geography-lessons/' title='RadCan needs geography lessons'>RadCan needs geography lessons</a></li>
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