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	<title>Fagstein &#187; NIMBY</title>
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		<title>The barrier stays</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/14/montreal-west-barrier/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The barrier segregating Montreal West from the Ville Saint Pierre district of Lachine is here to stay. The Quebec Court of Appeal this week upheld a lower court ruling that Montreal West was within its rights to setup a barrier to car traffic between the two towns. Though Montreal (which the Lachine borough is part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The barrier segregating Montreal West from the Ville Saint Pierre district of Lachine is here to stay. The Quebec Court of Appeal this week <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/11/13/montreal-west-barrier-appeal.html">upheld a lower court ruling</a> that Montreal West was within its rights to setup a barrier to car traffic between the two towns. Though Montreal (which the Lachine borough is part of now) <a href="http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/City+appeal+Montreal+West+barrier+victory/2223320/story.html">may appeal</a>, I'd wager their chances of getting heard at the Supreme Court level are slim. If the barrier comes down, it'll be because of a deal among neighbours, not because a hand was forced by the courts.</p>
<p>Montreal West argues this isn't about building a wall between rich and poor (there's no restriction on pedestrian travel), but the only issue is safety. I couldn't find any evidence of a problem <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/03/17/what-are-you-doing-driving-on-my-street/">when I checked it out two years ago</a>. But it seems to be enough to convince people that it's necessary. And that's why it's the same argument used by other cities who erect barriers between neighbours.</p>
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<p><iframe width="600" height="400" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=45.545447,-73.639076&amp;spn=0.421255,1.069794&amp;t=h&amp;msid=103852521538791455615.0004785eff041358a88d0&amp;output=embed"></iframe><br /><small>View <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=en&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=45.545447,-73.639076&amp;spn=0.421255,1.069794&amp;t=h&amp;msid=103852521538791455615.0004785eff041358a88d0&amp;source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Fences among municipal neighbours</a> in a larger map</small></p>
<p>This Google map shows a handful of examples of traffic barriers that happen to land right on municipal boundaries. They range from a concrete block with do-not-enter sign to a locked fence.</p>
<p>Most cases aren't quite so conspicuous. Look at an aerial map and you can draw boundaries between cities (or former cities) by simply looking at where the roads stop connecting to each other, where two streets run parallel to each other for a long time without any connecting streets. It makes it easier to justify separating cities physically when there are limited access points to block off, as is the case in Montreal West.</p>
<p>And then there are all the connections that aren't built because of a mixture of NIMBYism and other fears: the Cavendish extension, the second bridge to Nuns' Island.</p>
<p>We won't solve these issues through lawsuits. We'll solve them when people in their suburban fortresses realize that road safety will be achieved by traffic calming, better urban planning, increased public transit and more transportation options.</p>
<p>Putting barriers between neighbouring cities only serves to divide us.<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/01/31/montreal-west-wins-this-round/' title='Montreal West wins this round'>Montreal West wins this round</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/03/17/what-are-you-doing-driving-on-my-street/' title='What are you doing driving on my street?'>What are you doing driving on my street?</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/06/06/great-wall-of-montreal-west-goes-back-up/' title='Great Wall of Montreal West goes back up'>Great Wall of Montreal West goes back up</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/04/14/suburban-border-security/' title='Suburban border security'>Suburban border security</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/08/10/the-other-cavendish-extension/' title='The other Cavendish extension'>The other Cavendish extension</a></li>
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		<title>Glencrest Ave. is a death trap</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/08/12/glencrest-ave/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Residents of Glencrest Ave. in Côte Saint Luc are outraged at the impending death of all their children. You might think Côte Saint Luc is a relatively safe, quiet place, being an urban peninsula that isn't on the way to anywhere. And a where-is-that-again street like Glencrest would be a pretty quiet, low-traffic place in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Residents of <a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=Avenue+Glencrest,+Cote-Saint-Luc,+QC">Glencrest Ave. in Côte Saint Luc</a> are outraged at the impending death of all their children.</p>
<p>You might think Côte Saint Luc is a relatively safe, quiet place, being an urban peninsula that isn't on the way to anywhere. And a where-is-that-again street like Glencrest would be a pretty quiet, low-traffic place in that quiet, low-traffic town.</p>
<p>But you naive baby-killing street-racing maniacs either don't care about children or you don't understand the nature of the problem here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themonitor.ca/article-366016-Unrest-on-CSLs-Glencrest-Ave-over-excessive-traffic.html">Glencrest is immersed in traffic</a>. People can't cross the street safely anymore. And yet while the city says it is looking into the issue, the death trap continues to threaten the lives of innocents and residents are prisoners in their own homes, too afraid to step outside.</p>
<p>The evidence is irrefutable: according to a count by a city engineer, Glencrest sees 150 cars ... a day.</p>
<p>That's one car passing through this five-block street every 9.6 minutes.</p>
<p>We must rise up and hold these heartless politicians to account until this street is once again safe for our children.<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/01/11/montreal-geography-trivia-no-65/' title='Montreal Geography Trivia No. 65'>Montreal Geography Trivia No. 65</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/14/montreal-west-barrier/' title='The barrier stays'>The barrier stays</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/10/28/csl-street-sign-sale/' title='Own your own street sign (legally)'>Own your own street sign (legally)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/10/03/few-campaigns-in-on-island-suburbs/' title='Few campaigns in on-island suburbs (UPDATED)'>Few campaigns in on-island suburbs (UPDATED)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/03/02/beaurepaire-parking/' title='Beaconsfield applies NIMBY to parking'>Beaconsfield applies NIMBY to parking</a></li>
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		<title>Beaconsfield applies NIMBY to parking</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/03/02/beaurepaire-parking/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's a really short-sighted idea: Beaconsfield town council has approved a measure that would reserve 30 parking spaces near the Beaurepaire commuter train station only to permit-holding Beaconsfield residents. While 30 spots at a station in Montreal's equivalent to the middle of nowhere won't make much of a difference in the long run, the worry [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a really short-sighted idea: <a href="http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-307900-Beaconsfield-Council-divided-over-train-parking.html">Beaconsfield town council has approved a measure</a> that would reserve 30 parking spaces near the <a href="http://www.amt.qc.ca/tc/train/gares/index.asp?nogare=22">Beaurepaire commuter train station</a> only to permit-holding Beaconsfield residents.</p>
<p>While 30 spots at a station in Montreal's equivalent to the middle of nowhere won't make much of a difference in the long run, the worry is that this will become a trend. Other municipalities might enact similar measures, making it more difficult to park near train stations. Imagine if Pierrefonds restricted parking near the Roxboro and Sunnybrooke stations to only its residents, or if Montreal did the same for the Du Ruisseau station on the Deux-Montagnes line.</p>
<p>Such NIMBYism (while <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/02/28/west-islanders-are-never-happy/">not foreign to Beaconsfield</a>) is counter-productive to traffic problems and only serves to build walls between neighbouring towns.<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/12/14/henri-daoust-debate/' title='Traffic wars in Kirkland'>Traffic wars in Kirkland</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/09/09/ckac-circulation-730-review/' title='CKAC Circulation 730: First impressions'>CKAC Circulation 730: First impressions</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/09/02/ckac-sports-ends/' title='Government pays for Cogeco to shut down CKAC Sports'>Government pays for Cogeco to shut down CKAC Sports</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/05/24/all-traffic-radio/' title='All-traffic radio: A $9-million waste'>All-traffic radio: A $9-million waste</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/11/14/montreal-west-barrier/' title='The barrier stays'>The barrier stays</a></li>
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		<title>Westmount doesn&#8217;t want trains on its train tracks</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/08/28/westmount-doesnt-want-trains-on-its-train-tracks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, the city council in Westmount isn't keen on the idea of a high-speed rail link between downtown and the airport going through their little town on the lines currently used by the AMT commuter trains going to Windsor Station. Instead, they'd prefer if the route used tracks further south in St. Henri. The reasoning [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the city council in Westmount <a href="http://www.westmountexaminer.com/article-243953-City-prefers-commuter-rail-link-away-from-Westmount.html">isn't keen on the idea</a> of a high-speed rail link between downtown and the airport going through their little town on the lines currently used by the AMT commuter trains going to Windsor Station. Instead, they'd prefer if the route used tracks further south in St. Henri.</p>
<p>The reasoning is somewhat complicated, and has to do with some very technical aspects of the two tracks. In order to better explain it, I've created a diagram of the situation below:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2506" title="Westmount train" src="http://blog.fagstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/westmount-train.jpg" alt="" width="479" height="383" /></p>
<p>As you can see, it's better for everyone involved if the train uses the lower tracks.</p>
<p>(I realize this is classic <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY">NIMBY</a>ism and not specific to Westmount, but you'd think it would occur to them that such a suggestion without any reasons behind it would lead to this kind of impression.)</p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/lagace/?p=70721657">Aww Pat, I'm touched</a> (<a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/08/02/nobody-wants-to-read-1000-comments/">again</a>). Your kickback will be in the mail shortly. Pour vos lecteurs, vous pouvez lire mes billets sur <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/category/media/">les médias</a>, <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/category/montreal/">Montréal</a> et, surtout, sur <a href="http://blog.fagstein.com/tag/patrick-lagace/">Patrick Lagacé</a>.<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/05/31/ctv-two/' title='CTV Two: The second-rate brand'>CTV Two: The second-rate brand</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/05/24/all-traffic-radio/' title='All-traffic radio: A $9-million waste'>All-traffic radio: A $9-million waste</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/04/05/fpjq-professional-journalist-vote/' title='I don&#8217;t want to be a professional journalist'>I don&#8217;t want to be a professional journalist</a></li>
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		<title>Nuns&#8217; Island hates public transit</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/05/18/nuns-island-hates-public-transit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As if trying to find a way to sound more like elitist suburban NIMBY snobs, residents at the southern tip of Nuns' Island have apparently complained to the STM that they have too much bus service. They complain about the noise and dust generated by the buses. I know buses are loud. I hear them [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1796" title="Nuns\' Island bus" src="http://blog.fagstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/nunsislandbus.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="379" /></p>
<p>As if trying to find a way to sound more like elitist suburban NIMBY snobs, residents at the southern tip of Nuns' Island have apparently complained to the STM that they have too much bus service. They complain about the noise and dust generated by the buses.</p>
<p>I know buses are loud. I hear them outside my living room window every day. But I've never thought to complain about them, nor have I ever experienced dust problems (do they shed?)</p>
<p>Perhaps the noise and dust problems in the area might be due to the fact that <em>it's one giant construction zone for upscale condos</em>? The photo above is one of many new skyscraping condo buildings going up in what was once empty space near a park.</p>
<p>The STM, after considering numerous half-assed schemes to placate residents and needlessly inconvenience public transit users, has concluded that <a href="http://www.lemagazineids.com/article-214000-Les-usagers-de-la-STM-continueront-a-etre-desservis.html">it's not reducing service to the area</a>. The article doesn't make clear which side Claude Trudel is on, since he's both the Verdun borough mayor and the chairperson of the STM board of directors. Let's hope he and his constituents realize this is the best option for everyone involved.</p>
<p>Especially when you consider that one bus on the road can replace dozens of SUVs.<br />
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		<title>Suburban border security</title>
		<link>http://blog.fagstein.com/2008/04/14/suburban-border-security/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This prison-style gate between Pierrefonds and Kirkland makes the Great Wall of Acadie Blvd. look tame by comparison. This is because of vandalism. People spraying graffiti and stuff. Look, Kirkland, I know us Pierrefonds scum may scare you a bit, but we're not all serial back-alley rapists. Perhaps you should tackle your vandalism problem in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.citesnouvelles.com/article-202272-Ils-ont-de-la-difficulte-a-vivre-avec-des-voisins.html">This prison-style gate between Pierrefonds and Kirkland</a> makes the Great Wall of Acadie Blvd. look tame by comparison.</p>
<p>This is because of vandalism. People spraying graffiti and stuff.</p>
<p>Look, Kirkland, I know us Pierrefonds scum may scare you a bit, but we're not all serial back-alley rapists. Perhaps you should tackle your vandalism problem in a less draconian fashion?<br />
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<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2007/11/14/a-city-planner-is-getting-rich-somewhere/' title='A city planner is getting rich somewhere'>A city planner is getting rich somewhere</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2011/12/14/henri-daoust-debate/' title='Traffic wars in Kirkland'>Traffic wars in Kirkland</a></li>
<li><a href='http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/10/15/traffic-problems-in-1955/' title='Traffic problem: solved.'>Traffic problem: solved.</a></li>
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