Montreal Geography Trivia No. 4

What do the following names have in common:

  • Ste. Catherine
  • Ontario
  • Dorchester
  • René Lévesque
  • De la Gauchetière

that they do not have in common with the following:

  • De Maisonneuve
  • St. Jacques
  • St. Antoine
  • Viger
  • Hochelaga

(In other words, what statement can you make about Group A that you can’t make about Group B?)

UPDATE: No correct answer yet, so I’ve added a hint: Sherbrooke and Notre-Dame could be placed in either category, depending on how you phrase the answer.

UPDATE 2: Still nothing but frustrated guessers, so here’s the latest hint: This question is related to Montreal Geography Trivia Question No. 2.

UPDATE (Dec. 7): It took four days, but we finally have a correct answer: The first five names are the names of streets in Montreal-East and Pointe-aux-Trembles that are unconnected with their downtown namesakes. The second list is names that are not of streets in the east end, and Sherbrooke and Notre-Dame are contiguous all the way downtown.

Map of Montreal-East/Pointe-aux-Trembles

The assumption you were all making was that you knew which streets I was talking about.

21 thoughts on “Montreal Geography Trivia No. 4

  1. Christelle

    question 1…….. they were all the same street? :P

    i know dorchester is now rene levesque.. and further it`s de la gauchetiere… no? maybe that`s silly too.

    :)

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  2. Desmond Bliek

    My guess is that one could say that the metro runs under the latter group (at least in certain stretches), but I’m not entirely sure about Saint-Jacques. It’d have to be for only a short stretch between Vendome and Place-Saint-Henri stations.

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  3. Fagstein Post author

    Edna, you fail AGAIN.

    De Maisonneuve, St. Jacques and St. Antoine are all new names for old streets.

    Come on, anyone? Do I need to give another hint?

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  4. blork

    I’m about ready to give up. Number 2 was about the fact that rue Ontario is divided up into different bits. That doesn’t work here, as Ontario is in the first group, along with Dorchester, which is NOT broken into bits (at least not with the same name) and is separate from the second group, which includes the chopped up de Maisonneuve.

    So it’s not about one group being continuous and the other not. Nor is it about one group crossing different urban environments.

    So I’m stumped. But I will blame it on the phrasing of the question, which asks “What do the following names have in common…” which implies it is the NAMES not the STREETS THEMSELVES that have commonalities and differences.

    So you’ve confused me too much. It’s all your fault. ;-)

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  5. Fagstein Post author

    Blork,

    one of your assumptions is wrong.

    Here’s a way to test it:

    1. Find the names in group 1 on a map
    2. Zoom in to the neighbourhood they occupy together
    3. You’ve made an assumption. Repeat from step 1.

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  6. Josh

    Perhaps I’m making a false assumption myself, but it seems to me that it’s impossible to zoom in on ‘the neighbourhood they occupy together’, since Ontario and Dorchester (to take two) occupy neither the same borough nor the same municipality.

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  7. Peter

    How about this? The streets in group A switch from being one way to going in both directions. The streets in Group B are either all one way across their entire length, or they run in both directions their entire length….Except St Jaques switches to a 2 way street in NDG, which would put it in Group A, so I guess that’s wrong too!

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  8. Peter

    Ok I think I got it. The names in group A are used on multiple streets within the city of Montreal. The names in Group B are unique to one street in the city of Montreal. There’s a Sherbrooke Street in Beaconsfield, so technically it belongs to Group B according to my phrasing, but it would be part of group A if you include the entire island.

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  9. Alanah

    Got it! Group A all have segments in Pte-aux-trembles. Dorchester really threw me off, but there is a section of the old anglo name out east there!

    As for Sherbrooke and Notre Dame, they do exist in pte-aux-trembles, but aren’t segmented…

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  10. Yul B.

    Interesting. My MapArt book doesn’t have the Dorchester name for Montreal East on either the map or the index. But Google does.

    Not the first error I’ve found with MapArt, either. I should write them and complain!

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